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[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

You can get wifi pretty cheap. A $40 router will get you wifi. You'll also need an internet connection, however......

[-] [email protected] 10 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Yes, of course. Look at Amish communities. Largely self-sufficient and thriving.

People who haven’t tried it greatly underestimate the amount of work though. I’d recommend dipping your toe in with some gardening at home first. Jumping in the deep end will usually lead to failure and disillusionment.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 15 hours ago

They exist in the world. They are not very popular, judging by the fact that you've not heard of them.

You need much more than 1 acre per person. First Google result is 5-6 per person.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

A lot of people buy flour, rice, and oats (the cheap and hard to grow yourself grains) and grow the fancy stuff (nice fruits and veg, maybe inoculated mushroom logs) and maybe have some meat roaming in tractors like chickens, themselves. For that use case 0.5-1 acre can cover a person’s food needs easy if doing a smart permaculture type style. (Obviously monocultures take way more space per calorie).

I would recommend looking into aquaponics as well if space is a constraint.

But both take years to set up, and a good amount of labour. It isn’t just like having your vegetable garden you water on weekends.

Also, if in an arid region, the acerage requirements go up.

[-] [email protected] 31 points 20 hours ago

You will need a lot more money, there is more to daily expenses than food and wifi. Also 1 acre is not enough for a sizeable group.

You absolutely can though. I know the preppers forum had one. You see it a lot more in Latin America these days, mostly retired expats and hippies (not trying to be derogatory). I find it's kind of hard to ask people to put in all that effort though when they don't get proper land rights. A commune doesnt offer a stable retirement other than trust me. I always imagine tension can run a lot higher than they should in these types of communities.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 12 hours ago

yes it's very likely to either get torn apart by interpersonal tensions such as infidelities or economic power struggles or just devolve into a new age cult of some kind, and usually some combination of all three from what I've seen of those kinds of communities.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago

Yea 1acre will not grow shit for more than a few people to enjoy food from randomly.

[-] [email protected] 57 points 23 hours ago

Need more than WiFi and vegetables

[-] [email protected] 34 points 22 hours ago

I for one am quite fond of not having to concern myself with my poop beyond the push of a button

[-] [email protected] 15 points 22 hours ago

There's an African farmer that came up with a septic tank that fed a methane generator.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago

That's pretty cool, actually. Got a link?

[-] [email protected] 23 points 21 hours ago

it's offline right now. please mail poop to restore service.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

Made me chuckle. Nice one.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago

Unless you think farts are funnier. Then it's Jerusalem Artichokes.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago

We call them fartichokes. Roast a tray of them, eat up, and the hilarity ensues.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 20 hours ago

I'm thinking you don't understand how many acres it takes to feed a few people. I'd be scared shitless trying to feed my skinny family of 4 on a single acre, and that's assuming a constant water supply.

OK, looked around a bit, yeah, we'd starve on 1 acre.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Try looking for crops to grow that are nutritious but relatively low maintenance. Sweet potatoes, sunchokes, groundcover strawberries, asparagus, cherry tomatoes, etc. Bonus if you can grow excess to sell at local farmers markets for some extra income, though the easiest the grow ones probably won't fetch a great price and on one acre I doubt you'll have extra of anything. Also, look for native options. Less maintenance, and local pollinators are more likely to help out.

If you're not squeamish and can get enough extra space with an enclosure, rabbits breed very quickly and just eat grass. Chickens are good for eggs and meat.

[-] [email protected] 41 points 23 hours ago

Usually in the US they call it a co-op instead of a commune, but yeah, things like that are already done.

[-] [email protected] 34 points 23 hours ago

All it takes is people getting together and organizing to do a thing. Co-ops exist all over the place. Also plenty of cults have communes. Those kinds suck tho.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

Yeah the kool-aid is terrible. I mean come on! How do you fuck up kool-aid?!

[-] [email protected] 19 points 22 hours ago

In Australia they’re now called ‘intentional communities’. That might help with searching. Some are religious but some are not. Quite a few are just science/sustainability based.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

There are a few in my country and theyre filled with the craziest hippies

[-] [email protected] 9 points 22 hours ago

Community gardens and Internet cooperative are the operating phrases you’re searching for

[-] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago

Depends on how many people you're envisioning in your commune, but you'll likely need more than a one-acre garden. And working that garden is quite a bit of work!

[-] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Do you have access to the ground water?

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Grow vertically and invest in moving that water. Let people live on your land for free but require they work.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago

If you really want help, you almost need to dox yourself by giving pretty specific location info. So please don’t do that.

Land matters are very complex in any country. In the USA, laws around land use can vary from one block to another. 50 states and many matters are delegated from each state to their counties for implementation.

My point is, yes, you may be able to arrange such a community.

It can be a tricky legal, political and social affair that is very specific to your exact site.

So plan on a huge learning curve and learning how to find the right kind of legal and organizational advice.

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[-] [email protected] 19 points 23 hours ago

In this day and age is it possible to create a commune? With majority of vegetables coming from one acre and all put in to get wifi to our subdivision? So the bill is not that high?

[-] [email protected] 12 points 23 hours ago

OH thank you I understand now. Unfortunately, no.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 22 hours ago

I can't believe that worked.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago

Ikr!? Didn’t even have to shout!

[-] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago

With an llc and enough contracts, sure. Have "investors" pay into some cooperative to buy land/startup, then everyone is somehow working for that co-op which pays for everything?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago

A friend joined a group of people to build a co-op in a house about ten years ago. Shouldn't be any different today.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

Google intentional communities.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

The wifi rollout thing is tricky... Especially because who do you entrust the administration to? Technically whoever is managing it can see everything everyone in the subdivision does online, and since it's all shared, could be doing packet sniffing to de-obfuscate your traffic and if they're untrustworthy, potentially be stealing your PII. They're already going to have a lot of your PII simply from knowing who you are and where you live, but basically having your entire internet history at their fingertips no less.

It's part of why I refuse to move in somewhere that someone else controls the connection, literally for that reason. I want my own private connection because I don't trust other people with this.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

I once had a deal with my landlord to provide wifi to the other tenants. Of course I didn't snoop, but it's not like they had any real assurance of that. You'd think there might be some privacy concerns but nobody had a problem except when the internet was down. I think in general people don't tend to care about that, though if you do there's the option of using a VPN.

[-] [email protected] -3 points 21 hours ago

The problem isn’t that it’s impossible, but that humans are so awful they simply can’t do something like this without infighting and bickering and blame.

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