Maybe we don't need 30 remedial IQ points from a magic hallucination box?
“I used many words to ask the AI to tell me a story using unverified sources to give me the answer I want and have no desire to fact check.”
GIGO.
you read books and eat vegetables like a loser
my daddy lets me play nintendo 64 and eat cotton candy
we are not the same
Imagine thinking "I outsource all of my thinking to machines, machines that are infamous for completely hallucinating information out of the aether or pulling from sources that are blatantly fabrications. And due to this veil of technology, this black box that just spits out data with no way to tell where it came from, and my unwillingness to put in my own research efforts to verify anything, I will never have any way to tell if the information is just completely wrong. And yet I will claim this to be my personal knowledge, regurgitate this information with full confidence and attach my personal name and reputation to its veracity regardless, and be subject to the consequences when someone with actual knowledge fact checks me," is a clever take. Imagine thinking that taking the easy way out, the lazy way, the manipulative way that gets others to do your work for you, is the virtuous path. Modern day Tom Sawyers, I swear. Sorry, AI bros, have an AI tell you who Tom Sawyer is so you can understand the insult.
Obviously it's the fact checkers who are wrong /s
After all that long description, AI tells you eating rocks is ok.
my overseer agent
Welp. That's all I need!
while you were studying books, he studied a cup of coffee. TBH I can spend an hour both reading and drinking coffee at the same time idk why it's got to be its own thing.
Look at this guy over here, bragging about multitasking. Next he'll tell us he can drink coffee and write multiple prompts in an hour. /s
Oh no not the reading! Great thing we had AI to create AI and we did not have to depend on all those computer scientists and engineers whose only skill is to read stuff.
I have read books in which the definition of certain words get redefined to be more precise and clear in the communication while making things less verbose. I don't think an ai summary will reliably properly introduce me to the definition on page 100 of a book that took the previous 99 pages to set up the required definitions to understand the definition it gives on page 100.
But I could be wrong.
This is the most Butlerian Jihad thing I’ve ever read. They should replace whatever Terminator-lite slop Brian Herbert wrote with this screengrab and called it Dune Book Zero.
It makes me think of The Time Machine by H. G. Wells.
You're right OOP, we are not the same. I have the full context, processing time, an enjoyable reading experience and a framework to understand the book in question and its wider relevance. You have a set of bullet points that, when asked to talk about on the mind numbing mens rights/crypto podcast you no doubt have, you cannot talk about, a lot of which will be wrong anyway.
spittakes coffee all over keyboard
I just spent the last 57 minutes drinking that coffee, I was almost done too, thanks a lot.
Did you know that botanically speaking coffee beans are the same as milk and apples and you shouldn't cry over spilt milk
Imagine being proud of wasting the time drinking coffee instead of reading and understanding for yourself...
Then posting that you are proud of relying on hallucinating, made up slop.
Lmfao.
They also imply that 2+58 minutes is equal to 2 hours
-Look at you. Spent four years in a college. Six months to go through the documentation of the programming language. Another six months to read the manual of the library and practice those example code. Finally, three months to implement the feature and complete the automated tests. Meanwhile, I write a prompt in thirty seconds and AI gives me the whole project, in a programming language I don't know, and with me not knowing any of the technical detail.
-And somehow you are proud of that?
-And somehow you are proud of that?
Further, I find it EXTREMELY disturbing that someone would desire the secrets of our wonderous journey to be so cynical, solvable and perfectly designed for authoritarian consolidation of power.
Except it won't. There's no LLM that can help someone with no or little experience build a full application. You can get away with a website once and struggle through updates, but there's no LLM making Netflix. There isn't a chance there will be in our lifetimes. Anyone who tells you anything else is selling you something or not educated enough on the topic to have an opinion.
The LLM will eventually steal the code, though, and people will claim it invented something.
Ignoring all the obvious problems with AI, this shows another issue as well.
Rewading books is beautiful, it makes you disappear into a world , immerses you, makes your head fantasise about how this world looks like, you go on a long vacation.
You lose all that, you stop using your own brain to outsource all that beauty to a datacenter
2 minutes + 58 minutes = 2 hours
Bro must have asked the LLM to do the math for him
Impressed that he can think of the information he needs in 2 minutes - why even bother researching if you already know what you need ...
Seriously though, reading and understanding generally just leaves me with more, very relevant, questions and some answers.
The additional hour might be the time they have to work so that they can pay for the LLM access.
Because that is another aspect of what LLMs really are, another Silicon Valley rapid-scale venture capital money-pit service hoping that by the time they've dominated the market and spent trillions they can turn around and squeeze their users hard.
Only trouble for fighting this with logic is that the market they're attempting to wipe out is people's ability to assess data and think critically.
Indeed. Folks right now dont understand that their queries are being 99.9% subsidized by trillions in VC hoping to dominate a market. Tech tale as old as time and people are falling for it hook, line, and sinker
Two hours to read a book? How long has it been since he touched a piece of adult physical literature?
And not THAT kind of adult literature.
ChatGPT please tell me if spot does indeed run.
I don't think it's an exaggeration to say these people are dehumanizing and debasing themselves.
After a few years of this they'll scarcely be able to think at all.
This is a legit worry I have.... Lemme ask ChatGPT how I should process this.
They are dehumanizing everyone else too.
Can you think of anyone precise and clear enough in their speech that some "needless" repetition and context wouldn't drastically improve your understanding of what they say?
Can you imagine how upset they would be if you took them by their very word and not what they meant?
In their mind, authors (and probably everyone else) are machines. The kindness of trying to truly understand them is not given. They should be "flawless".
It also makes them unable to understand art. They think art is when something looks or sounds nice, they have no appreciation for anything deeper than that because for them the art is a commodity alienated from the labor that produced it.
100% that is why they only appreciate realistic art styles and I guess super trendy stuff like ghibli.
And of course, "appreciate" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.
It's a shame, because classic Ghibli movies are not shallow or inhumane at all. They were not based on trends. Miyazaki could not have made such beautiful films if he had not had real life experiences.
“The dragon is supposed to fall from down the air vent, but, being a dragon, it doesn’t land on the ground,” Miyazaki says. “It attaches itself to the wall, like a gecko. And then—ow!—it falls—thud!—it should fall like a serpent. Have you ever seen a snake fall out of a tree?” He explains that it “doesn’t slither, but holds its position.” He looks around at the animators, most of whom appear to be in their twenties and early thirties. They are taking notes, looking grave: nobody has seen a snake fall out of a tree.
Miyazaki goes on to describe how the dragon—a protean creature named Haku, who sometimes takes this form—struggles when he is pinned down. “This will be tricky,” Miyazaki says, smiling. “If you want to get an idea, go to an eel restaurant and see how an eel is gutted.” The director wriggles around in his seat, imitating the action of a recalcitrant eel. “Have you ever seen an eel resisting?” Miyazaki asks.
“No, actually,” admits a young man with hipster glasses, an orange sweatshirt, and an indoor pallor.
Miyazaki groans. “Japanese culture is doomed!” he says.
Even if we accept that the AI-using guy is correct - that he takes two minutes to formulate the perfect query, and gets a successful response based on that - he had to read books in order to know how to do that.
The people currently using AI were alive before it existed. They gained an education in a more traditional way, which perhaps allows them to take shortcuts using AI.
In the future, if nobody reads books, they will be even less able to prompt AI or to evaluate its responses.
Without the knwoledge, you don't even know what precise information you need.
When I started learning SQL Server, I was so ignorant I couldn't even search for what I needed.
They think this is impressive.
I read books because I want knowledge and understanding. You get bite-sized bits of information. We are not the same.
They don't value intelligence and think everyone is just as likely to be accurate as the LLM. Their distrust for academics and research makes them think that their first assumptions or guesses are more correct than anything established. That's how they shirk off vaccines evidence and believe news without verifying anything.
Whatever makes their ego feel better must be the truth.
You really nailed it here.
They're the next generation of that guy who is 'always right' and 'knows everything', yet in reality they are often wrong and won't admit it, and they really only know the most superficial things about any given subject.
for a large portion of the population, "if it doesn't make money, then it is worthless" applies to EVERYTHING.
Did they ask an LLM how LLM's work? Because that shit's fucking farcical. They're not "traversing" anything, bud. You get 17 different versions because each model is making that shit up on the fly.
I've seen this at work.
We installed a new water sampler and they sent an official installer to set up and commission the device. The guy couldn't answer a damn question about the product without chatGPT. When I asked a relatively complex question that the bot couldn't answer (that was at the third question), I decided that I had enough and spend an hour reading the manual of the thing. Turns out the bot was making up the answers and I learned how to commission the device without the "official support".
"We did it, Patrick! We made a technological breakthrough!"
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