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In search of a non-electron text editor that can fold | Are emacs and (neo)vim my only options? (discuss.online)
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[–] 26 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Kate,kdevelop,xed,mousepad,gnome builder.,notepad next(clone notepad++)

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    • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    Geany(Its a lightweight GTK Based IDE)

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    [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    There's also Zed. And helix.

    Amongst all the other great alts here

    Also neovim is really dope! Just have to throw that there

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    There’s also Zed.

    Noted. Thank you!

    And helix.

    I believe this doesn't have folding (yet). Unfortunately.

    Also neovim is really dope! Just have to throw that there

    xD , Neovim is definitely pretty cool.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I use Zed as my primary editor these days. It’s just about ready for prime time!

    (Source: 12 years of web and Linux hacking)

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    By admission of my fellow Lemmy-users, I've gone and tried out many text editors over the course of the past few days. Unfortunately, I didn't like the installation options for Zed in my current distro of choice (i.e. Fedora):

    • its flatpak is unverified
    • not found in Fedora's own repos

    It is found within Terra's repos. However, users report that -at least for Zed- some of the installed packages from Fedora's own repo are replaced by Terra's. This interaction can be prevented by giving preference for Fedora's own packages, but it seems like a can of worms I'm not very interested to engage with at the moment. Hopefully this situation will be resolved rather sooner than later.

    Anyhow, have you got the chance to work with Emacs and/or Kate over the years? If so, could you chime in and give your thoughts on how Zed fares in comparison? Please note that I'm (mostly) asking within the confines of a relatively simple text editor used to take notes with.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Honestly I never really got into using any of the terminal based editors- I like a pretty GUI, personally.

    That being said I have been a KDE user for the last couple of years and actually have quite a favourable view on Kate. It’s a very competent editor with a great deal of extensibility.

    The big difference between the two is their focus. Zed is written to be targeted at developers and as such has some capabilities that Kate doesn’t (afaik) like an AI assistant panel, handling multi megabyte text files with grace, and being able to directly connect to remote file systems over SSH.

    If you’re not looking for those features I think you’d be very happy with Kate!

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    • [+] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I have to agree with the positivism surrounding Kate. It has been the only one (together with KDevelop) out of the 5 text editors I've installed and tested since yesterday that actually did what I desired from it. Props to the devs! Let's see if it can dethrone Emacs 😜.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Emacs will always be abe to do things you can't do with other editors. It's a text based interface toolkit that happens to also have a good text editor and IDE capability. Buuut, you need to spend a lot of time to set things up. I use it since probably more than 20 years and I still often need to look up and learn stuff. If you want a tool and not a workshop, get a simpler editor.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago

    I think you've done an excellent job at capturing my initial thoughts. It basically felt as if using Emacs was bound to be overkill as my (relatively simple) use case didn't seem to warrant its usage.

    But, even if it is (possibly) overkill, I do prefer^[Granted, I haven't tried out Neovim for this yet.] how Emacs handles the folding. So, while there's the very real possibility that I'll not even utilize 1% of Emacs' potential, I feel most excited and (somehow) comfort while working with it 😅.

    As for setting things up, I immediately started using Emacs through Spacemacs until the input lag became very noticeable on larger files. Then, I pivoted to Doom Emacs and I've been enjoying it so far. Perhaps I'll create my own config at some point in the future, But for now, Doom Emacs is all I need.

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    • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    On windows: Notepad++. On Linux-based OS: Kate. And there's also JetBrains Fleet, that is jetbrains answer to vscode.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago

    Thank you!

    I tested Notepad Next, which seems to be Notepad++' cross-platform alternative. However, I wasn't able to get the folding functionality on a Markdown file. Am I doing something wrong?

    I've tried Kate since yesterday, it has been one of the better ones for now.

    JetBrains Fleet seems like a cool project. But I'll probably wait until it's open sourced. Thanks anyways!

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    [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Will probably get airstriked for this, but Zed is also a option.

    Also, if you're using GNOME, then try GNOME builder. And if you're using KDE, then try KDevelop or Kate.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    i’ve heard that some people love using kate because, with some plugins, it really can do all most people need. i’ve seen a dude make a video on it but would need some time to find it again if there was any interest.

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    [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If you don't want to go the Emacs or Vim routes, try Kate. Neovim is amazing but Kate is too from what I hear. Similar support for LSPs.

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    [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Look at Helix and Zed.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago

    Thanks for the recommendations! Helix doesn't seem to offer this functionality (yet). Unfortunately...

    As for Zed, it does seem to be capable of reproducing the functionality found in the gif (or at least to some extent). However, installing it on my distro isn't pretty. Therefore, I wish to install it at some point, but I'll wait it out for now.

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    • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    SublimeText?

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    Looks cool. Thanks!

    Uhmm..., did I understand correctly that it's not open source?

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    • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Others have given you many options, but I would like to know why Nvim or Emacs are not good options for you?

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    [–] 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    ED IS THE STANDARD EDITOR

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    [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Textadept!.

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    [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    You might have a look at LEO:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_(text_editor)

    I used it extensively for some time to write big documentation. It is good.

    But I'd guess that for most tasks, Emacs org-mode is the most powerful option.

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