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[-] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago

I haven't forgotten Destin trying to push his creationist agenda using his YouTube platform. He makes a lot of good content, but after that I don't want to watch his stuff anymore. Fuck him for doing something like that.

[-] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago

He is also a staunch Republican, and a Trump supporter. I like some of his videos, but most of them are cringe if you're actually knowledgeable about the topic he is covering. He researches a topic just enough to come across as the smartest person in the room, while dumbing down concepts and talking down to the audience like we're infants. You can tell his target audience are poorly educated and easily impressed people from rural America.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

I pretty strongly disagree with that characterization, at least for the manufacturing videos I watched, that I do have experience in. I appreciate how deferential and humble he is to people in his videos even if they're showing a job that is relatively unremarkable to most people.

I also think

poorly educated and easily impressed people from rural America.

is a pretty mean spirited and stereotype-based thing to say.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

I watched this video in its entirety and it made me profoundly uncomfortable.

There was a lot of subtext that seems edited out. Yes he’s “humble” in some respects but he’s also willfully ignorant in others, or at least presents as such.

I would not be surprised if in a few years he goes off the deep end.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

I also watched the whole thing, and have to imagine that a lot of xenophobic stuff was edited out when they found out their chainmail from India was actually from China. That section was so cringe, they had someone on earlier who spoke Chinese, why not ask him what it meant or research some more, than make assumptions and air that lightly filtered.

I get he's making a point to invest in local manufacturing, but then knowingly having the excess supply of chainmail come from India defeats the point he's trying to make. Considering the handle for the first 2000 are from costa rica and the excess chainmail after the 2000 units was at least thought to be from India, it seems rare anything being sold is 100% Made in America, yet has a price tag 4x as much.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Yea I watched it too and had the exact same response to the Indian chainmail.

He wants to make his product completely in America. Ok sure. He can’t. Ok sucks. Decides he’s actually just trying not to buy any Chinese components instead.. ok what?

The other bit I thought that was kinda weird was that if he’s so interested in bringing back this manufacturing capacity to Americans, then, do that.

It’s an entire video about him trying to manufacture something without manufacturing it. Outsourcing every single component to a vendor as long as it’s an American vendor.

You want more people that know how to make tools and dies, hire some dude to do that, make it economically feasible for people to do that by having good stable jobs that do that at your brush factory.

I found the whole video kinda offputting in this way. It sure would be great if he could just magically find this manufacturing capacity sitting idle in America and exploit it to make his brush.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Really ? he is a Trump supporter ? I know him only from his videos, but that seems out of character for someone versed in the sciences and reasoning. Can you provide a source ? I don't want to support him with views anymore if that's true

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

This. I'd be super surprised because he's an intellectual who likes to understand the hows and whys of things. I really enjoy his content (especially his helicopter series). If he's maga then I'll definitely not watch another.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

In the video where he's shooting antique guns (or something) with his son, his son always calls him "sir". Is that a regional thing? It seemed super weird to me.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I noticed the same thing, and you could see it a bit in this (OP) video too.

I think this one is partly regional and partly traditional.

Destin probably always called his father sir, and he probably has the same expectation of his children.

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

I've been following him for years and I don't really remember him pushing any narrative except the bible verse references at the end, can you be more specific?

It's obvious he's religious but he's a great educator and host so unless it's affecting his videos, I don't care what he does with his free time.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

When did he do that?

And, if someone has a sincerely held moral belief and they honestly believe other people's lives would be made better if they heard it, then how is is not morally good from their perspective?

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

He can believe what he wants in his personal time. He can even use his platform to spread his beliefs. However being all about science and then pushing some weird agenda is a whole other thing. He betrayed the trust, so I choose not to watch his stuff anymore.

It was this video: https://youtu.be/VPSm9gJkPxU

When this video went up it caused quite a fuss online as Destin seems to heavily push an old debunked intelligent design narrative around flagella.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

He literally says that there's a lot of good research being done trying to find the evolutionary mechanism. Nowhere that I saw at least did he push creationism, other than mentioning that the concept exists, and that he believes in god.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well, I don't think it's worth repeating the debate again. You can go back and look at what was posted back when it came out.

But he tells a very one sided story and keeps telling to keep an open mind. He presents this thing as if it's totally unique and amazing, where there are very similar structures in nature out there. He also heavily focuses on the idea of it being a motor in the way that a human designed motor works, giving the same names to parts which are kind of similar on a surface level but really aren't. He also repeats all of the bible thumper talking points around this subject, as if it's a mystery nobody can explain and couldn't have come to be without some kind of intelligent design at the helm. But the reality is, this is not representing the reality at all. This whole flagella thing was an exercise of goal post moving in the first place. The ID people kept pointing out weird things and missing links. Then when science explained exactly how that thing came to be, without ID involved, they just pointed to the next thing at one point ending up at flagella.

There is a whole Wikipedia page talking about how flagella evolved and how it came to be. The intelligent design people have been shouting about this for 3 decades now and there is so much info out there to find about how this came to be. If Destin wanted to approach this from a scientific standpoint, he would focus on that information, instead of presenting it like some kind of mystery we are still figuring it out today. And not keep telling people to have an open mind and how he can't figure it out. He could have even gone into why people might think it was ID and then explain the science why it is not. Something other online science communicators often do, give people the points they have been hearing from the "wrong" side and then go into those points and explain them.

Basically the whole subject itself is very hard to present without going into the whole ID versus evolution standpoint and the way he represented it was straight out of the ID playbook. And keep in mind all of this was thoroughly debunked back 20 years ago. Him bringing this up now is inexcusable.

I'm not even sure there is research still being done on this, the research was done decades before, there is no mystery.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

how is is not morally good from their perspective?

It is, but thier perspective is immoral.

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Believe can cross into delusion and become harmfull. I believe (hihi) creationism is part of the latter, as it also implies a hierarchy inbetween people and between people and other life.

Additionally, all evidence points away from intelligent design. For this youtube channel in particular, it's sad to see examples of belief over evidence.

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[-] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago

His point about investing in the pricier, good quality product instead of periodically paying for the cheaper, bad quality product, only makes sense if you have a guarantee the pricier product actually have a good quality. And that's not the only thing that matters. Companies like Malus claim to have better quality and we can debate that all day, but what's undeniable is their anti-repair stance. That means you can have a problem with their product and have to buy a new one anyway because it can't be repaired.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

That and there have been companies that had good product, but then got bought out. Only afterwards, they reduce product quality to the point of being some of the worst on the market.

These vulture capitalists are hoping that the brand recognition of what was once a good product keeps the company afloat long enough for them to rot away and consume the company from the inside.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Prime example: Craftsman hand tools.

When I was a kid, everyone had them. Worked well, lifetime warranty, yet much less expensive than professional tools

Last decade: cheap crap, work poorly, fall apart, essentially no warranty. Poor reputation: do not buy regardless of any sale. Yet more expensive after inflation

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Fucking A. Printers back in the days used to just print and had refillable ink cartridges. Some expensive ones are still chugging. My dad has one from the 90s that still fucking works. The new one we got cries about colour missing when trying to print a black n white page 😩

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Yep I agree. I don't think he was saying that being pricier guarantees its better quality, just that something better quality may be worth it even if it is pricier.

I would consider repair and upgrade-ability to be a part of quality.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

There are lots of places where I would pay for better quality but don’t because I can’t tell if there is any such thing

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

100% my problem. My mom bought a sewing machine about 4 decades ago and it still works to this day. It cost her a fortune, but it paid off. Sewing machines nowadays have all kinds of fancy electronics in there and if it fails, you're fucked. I don't even know if paying more really gets you a better quality sewing machine...

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I actually agree, it was one small problem I had with the video, he portrays the Boots theory of socio-economic unfairness as a basic "buy once cry once" thing, when really it's about how being poor is expensive. It doesn't matter if over the course of 5 years it makes sense to pay 4 times the cost for a product that lasts 5 times longer, it's that poor people can't afford a 4x cost product. Most people understand that quality stuff lasts longer, but it doesn't matter if you can't pay it and you need boots.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

Hey it's me a tool and die maker.

I can say at least that my company and the larger manufacturers in my town are spending enormous sums of cash getting students in to the trades. It's not just tool and die that's suffering, most of the "skilled" trades are bordering on geriatric.

A lot of the kids entering the trades are farm kids, which is another problem entirely. The average age of farmers in the US is close to retirement too.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

That makes me so happy to hear! I kept thinking that during this video, that he’s putting the cart before the horse. Made in America is important sure but the cost is significantly more which is problematic when you’re an working class person who literally doesn’t have the cash to buy American made, we need to be sending our young people back to trades not say everyone needs college! I’m a 2004 Graduate and so many people in my class went into so much debt and for what? A barely above minimum wage desk job? I was a pariah for not going to college but going to a tech school.

If we don’t have young people in these trades, making fair wages, we have no middle class and if we have no middle class he’s going to run out of $75 scrub brush buyers sooner rather than later.

The video got really close to being a dog whistle to me a few times he did mention he wanted to talk about unions, then didn’t, I just felt like there was so much focus on “manufacturing is actually good for the US” - and it is, I’m a leftie but I agree we do want some manufacturing jobs, especially the high skilled ones, but almost no focus on how we keep these industries alive, and grow them, and how important it is that young people can access this training and why it’s important to bring education into the conversations about “made in America” - high skill manufacturing isn’t going to sprout up over night, it’s why he struggled so hard to source parts, and the video very much framed this industry as something that is an organic industry that will just be there if we buy it… which feels dishonest if we look at the bigger picture and all the lack of both knowledge and experience that will really make this industry struggle

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

People on Lemmy sure are just pissed off all the time huh? This is an interesting project at the very least and highlights just how difficult it is to truly make something in America, and does a decent job of explaining why it's bad that it's that difficult. Y'all need to just chill.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Constant purity testing, and invalidating everything someone says because you disagree on a couple issues 💀

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There are six components to this grill scrubber and at least two are from foreign source. The chain mail is from China and the top knob is from Costa Rica. He also said the handle string is of unknown source. I'm bit disappointed that he just slapped a Made in USA label on it and called it good. For 75 dollars I expect a bit better.

I wish Destine broke down the cost of every component of the scrubber and how he ended up with the $75 price tag at the end. He did that with the chain mail but didn't discuss the cost associated with any other part of the process. That leads me to believe this video was more leaning towards making money rather actually trying to get to the bottom of problem with manufacturing a product in the US. Sadly I'm left disappointed.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

I think thats a kinda dumb purity test when they clearly did put a lot of effort into actually trying, and I don't see why its better if they threw away the supply they already mistakenly bought.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No I'm not suggesting that he throw away perfectly good materials. I disagree that he put a lot of effort into really trying. There was little to no follow up after discovering the parts weren't from US. There was no attempt to contact the American chain mail supplier about limited capacity. Why is it that they can only supply so little amount? What would it take to increase capacity? Is it lack of people, machinery or investment? We don't know because it wasn't in the video. Same thing with the knobs that came from Costa Rica. There was no follow up. He didn't even try to source knobs made locally. He just said he will later. He started out the video sounding like he was determined to figure out a way to complete the task of trying to make a product made locally but he kinda just gave up and decided to just ship the product as is. The video was suppose to be an education focused but it slowly turned into a marketing video. I find that disappointing.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Climate Town made a similar episode for their tshirt as well, which he struggle to find a tshirt maker that is fully locally made to reduce the climate impact.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Watched the video yesterday. I think it does a good job at describing the reality, and it's consequences.

The causes and solutions are left as an exercise for the reader

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I was involved in injection moulding profesionally - on a customer side, just like Destin. Situation in Europe is very similar. While you can produce competitevly in Europe, to produce a mould most people go to China. Cheaper, faster, and just as good quality.

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