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California Governor Gavin Newsom has formally requested Trump administration officials to rescind the order to deploy the National Guard and return control of the force to California, calling the initial order unlawful and "intentionally designed to inflame the situation."

"I have formally requested the Trump Administration rescind their unlawful deployment of troops in Los Angeles county and return them to my command," Newsom wrote on X, formerly Twitter. "We didn't have a problem until Trump got involved. This is a serious breach of state sovereignty — inflaming tensions while pulling resources from where they're actually needed. Rescind the order. Return control to California."

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago
[-] [email protected] 2 points 32 minutes ago

More like Yes but in two weeks

[-] [email protected] 28 points 3 hours ago

Trump is again violating the Constitution. he does not have Title 10 authority to federalize the National Guard for anything short of national emergencies. The Constitution assigns that responsibility to the governors of the states, not the President.

Trump’s repeated unconstitutional seizing of power should have had him forcibly removed from office many times over. That Congress has not performed their duty to the people and our Constitution is all the proof we need that a purge is required if we want to survive.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, I'm sure if you just ask nicely the nazis will go away.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 8 hours ago

Build the state guard. Stop using the national guard.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 8 hours ago

Hell, deploy state guard to protect protestors.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 12 hours ago
[-] [email protected] 22 points 8 hours ago

We're ruled by rich people who know exactly what they're doing.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago
[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

Not to be aggressive or contrary. But what would you suggest we do?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

We need to change our culture.

Stop valuing consumerism and consumerist tendencies.

I don't think we can do it unless we're forced to, though.

wanderingmagus has a good point. Since the people exploiting us are also using their power to control what we value, fighting back directly and without permission may be the only option.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Something you shouldn't be talking about on Lemmy.

[-] [email protected] 98 points 20 hours ago

I have so much more faith in East LA to fight back than anyone in a position of power.

[-] [email protected] 48 points 19 hours ago

This is an example of somebody in a position of power fighting back. He may be a shitbag in general, but he is fighting back.

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[-] [email protected] 134 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Yeah okay. Like a strongly worded letter is gonna do anything?

Gavin: Just fly to DC and physically smack Trump around. You're in way better shape than he is, you're guaranteed to win.

[-] [email protected] 39 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I'm assuming that he's just creating a paper trail for when things inevitably escalate. If this is all he's got, though, it's pretty weak.

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[-] [email protected] 70 points 20 hours ago

Strongly worded letters are all the current Dems are good at.

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[-] [email protected] 19 points 16 hours ago

Oh my gosh. We got him, guys.

As a Californian, I think our governor is such a douchebag.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

The dude is such a sleazebag.

[-] [email protected] 77 points 20 hours ago

I don't understand how Newsom can't just order the CA national guard to not follow unlawfully given orders.

I'm not a lawyer but the statute in the Constitution that is written into the executive order as the authorization for it literally says the national guard are under control of the state Governor.

Why can't Newsom give the guard orders and tell Trump to go fuck himself and see what happens? I guess at that point you'll have conflicting orders from federal and state but, in theory, the national guard are under command of the state Governor and he's their highest authority. So they should follow Newsom's orders.

Like I said IANAL so I'm sure I'm missing something but for fuck sake this is outrageous. We're rounding people up for not having a paper, they're not even hardened criminals. If this was hardcore enforcement of actual dangerous people that would be one thing. These are just innocent undocumented migrants trying to live the their lives same as the rest of us.

[-] [email protected] 28 points 18 hours ago

I don’t understand how Newsom can’t just order the CA national guard to not follow unlawfully given orders

That would mean confronting Trump directly, and Newsom is a coward who doesn't really expect the Nat Guard to follow his orders over Trump's.

[-] [email protected] 51 points 20 hours ago

I don't remember the law or EO that made it so, but sometime after September 11th the President was granted the power to take command of the National Guard. That's not what the Constitution says? Throw it on the pile.

In practical terms, in any given situation where both are giving conflicting or even antagonistic orders, do you listen to the governor of your state or the President of the United States?

[-] [email protected] 33 points 19 hours ago

It seems ignoring the constitution while continually & increasingly granting power to the federal government for more than a century may have had some consequences.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

When fascists said "states rights", they actually meant "localized tyranny". As in, the ability for them to impose their tyranny on whatever size jurisdiction they currently held.

Anyone who isn't a neoliberal cuck warned they would seize the opportunity to impose their beliefs on the whole country, or the entire planet, the moment the option became available to them, because they are criminally corrupt, sociopathic authoritarian megalomaniacs, and always have been.

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