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If Cali doesn't step up, federal agencies will keep targeting them
Unfortunately local cops are in favor of killing citizens.
Cops work for cities, counties, and the state...
Politicians can give them orders, and if the bosses don't follow, they can be replaced.
Just because neoliberals act like they can't do anything about cops, doesn't mean they can't.
The sheriff is his own elected official, and you can't run for the position unless you're a cop.
So cut funding...
But the issue is the LAPD, not the LASD.
Stop acting like norma have to be followed by one side, you don't fight fascism with one arm tied behind your back
Doesn’t LAPD have jurisdiction inside the city?
Yeah, but a bunch of today's events were in the county, not the city, and the county sheriff are the ones that are most willing to hurt people.
Edit: Gov Newsom is deploying the CHP. Hopefully they have orders to keep the other cops from going on a murder rampage
They can also not go home at night, too.
They’re only doing aerial surveillance. Newsom and McDonnell, the Chief of Police, have clearly stated that they will not be assisting ICE.
The national guard showed up this morning after being federalized against a governor's wishes for the first time since school desegregation
They were dispatched the same way in Portland and DC during his first term using a loophole found by Barr.
general strike
It's important to remember that the regime does not and will not have a superweapon it can use without severe consequences.
It's also important to remember that the agencies showing up to harm and intimidate vulnerable and disenfranchised populations are cowards and generally unintelligent.
Protests are good. It gives them something to get angry about. The angrier they get, the dumber they act. They want violence. They want retaliation. The longer they don't suffer casualties, the sooner they start making mistakes that cause them to weaken themselves.
Be an obstruction. Ruin their equipment. Broadcast their names and faces. Shame them.
If they resort to lethal force, it must not be responded to with violent resistance they expect. It must be unexpected resistance. It must make them question their actions. It must wake them up to the problem they have caused.
I appreciate your point, but I would also point out that these fascists call graffiti 'violence' and even 'terrorism' (see the AG response to vandalism at Tesla dealerships).
They can call it whatever they want. They call protesting rioting and violence.
I'm not talking about graffiti. I'm talking about making vehicles meant to carry victims to detention facilities inoperable.
Agree. Property destruction in self defense in not violence.
If they resort to lethal force, it must not be responded to with violent resistance they expect.
Then what else? Because in such a situation you only have fight or flight.
There is no flight. There cannot be flight.
You can't fight tanks and automatic armed men with hunting rifles and handguns.
Vehicles need fuel, oil, tires, maintenance, and certainly not sand or anything in the fuel tank. Thugs need food, water, ammunition, communication, and pay. Dispersal equipment needs electricity, chemicals, training.
Counterpoint: Syria. Also if it gets to that point a significant chunk of the military would instantly defect, so yeah. But let's not jump the gun; for now this is still police and not particularly aligned semi-military forces. The national guard certainly shouldn't be provoked for now, but ICE should be fought whenever and wherever they try to kidnap someone. If the resistance doesn't protect its own members and their communities from ICE, it simply cannot survive.
this is still police and not particularly aligned semi-military forces
What do you classify police as, if not "particularly aligned semi-military forces "?
Enthusiastic supporters of the regime and also pigs?
Also that 😂
Mostly with you until the last paragraph:
If they resort to lethal force, it must not be responded to with violent resistance
Do not ask others to Martyr themselves. Active self defense is as critical as anything. My advice is to avoid life or death situations as much as possible, but if you find yourself in one do whatever it takes to get out alive.
It must make them question their actions. It must wake them up to the problem they have caused.
You cannot force someone to change their mind, opinions, feelings etc. and here their livelihood, social status and self esteem is reliant upon them never changing their mind. You can however prevent those actions that cause harm, by force usually.
The longer they don't suffer casualties
Casualties means killed, injured or otherwise incapacitated. I don't disagree that injuries and death result in massive backlash of public opinion (it's also why ICE, cops, etc also don't immediately resort to lethal measures) but the goal in modern civil conflicts like this one (of both sides) is to maximize casualties of that third category.
Do you want another Rodney King? Because that’s how you get another Rodney King.
Hardware stores contain myriad tools of the revolution.
These police probably still use off the shelf DJI for surveillance. They probably can't run EW because it'd knock their own drones out of the sky. Someone should check.
Totally not the actions of an occupying army.
These demonstrators are heroes. I hope the people mowed down by unmarked ICE vehicles survive and ICE collapses under the lawsuits.
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