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Other than them both being dickheads

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[-] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)
  1. Elon being an annoying jackass around everyone he meets has drawn most people, Trump included, to hate having him around.
  2. Several of Trump's policies that are unrelated to Elon, negatively effect him and/or Starlink and Tesla
  3. Trump isn't a traditional white-power nazi. He's just a racist, old American with zero wunderlust for any Reich, and isn't going as far as Elon hoped or would himself.
  4. Miscalculating this, Elon is now stuck in a horrible situation of being wrong about his orange would-be Hitler, and the moat he's dug himself between him, his companies and leftists who otherwise would consume his products.
  5. Doge didn't find or accomplish anything but dismantle parts of our government that then either had to be band-aided back together by the closest Democrats or Republicans for better and worse.

Aside from "winning" the election, they've both done nothing but step on eachother's feet and disappoint one another. The levee broke.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Most of that can be traced back to Elmo being a giant idiot who got lucky because he lies all the fucking Time about everything. Everything he promoted, every promise he made over more than the past decade, its all been lies that people have been lapping up because reasons

[-] [email protected] 65 points 6 days ago

I think Musk is stupider than people realize. He's a true believer in his grandpa's technocracy movement (plus eugenics), and so he thought "if I was in control for just a few weeks everyone would realize they should just let me run the world"

Then, he got practically unlimited power, and everyone got mad at him. He seemed genuinely surprised that people weren't praising him for his sacrifices (such as selflessly condemning hundreds of thousands of people to death)

Then he showed he was useless at buying elections, and the right dropped him

He followed Trump around for a while quietly, probably spending most of it in a k-hole. Then Trump officially broke up with him, even if he glazed Elon on the way out

Then the narcissism kicked back in. Maybe his "friends" rubbed it in, maybe his dad called him a disappointment who fumbled the chance of a lifetime, maybe the threat of legal ramifications made him bitch out - but whatever happened, Elon woke up one day and decided "it wasn't my fault, Trump and Co fucked me"

I think Elon is actually concerned about the bill to some degree, because it does stretch our debt and spending to levels that could potentially pop the global economy. I think he does feel disrespected that his work at Doge is being rolled back and everyone is distancing themselves from him. I think he is upset that he spent all this money to buy the presidency, and got a bad ROI

But ultimately, Elon is a fucking idiot with a huge ego. He didn't understand what game he was playing, and so when he lost he started blaming others

And it's beautiful. Possibly the greatest crash out in history

[-] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

He thought he was playing the game against Trump who is in fact a moron. But then he found out there are smart powerful evil people actually pulling the strings who have more power than he could imagine. He got fucking set up and rolled over by people as cunning as he perceived himself to be. Self reflection is not something his brain is capable of so he's just lashing out lol. He's a bozo and his companies are going to 0.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

Yeah I really hope he goes after Vought and the truly evil people next. It'd be glorious to watch them all fight and get ripped apart so they can't harm anyone else.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Pretty much. Trump is charismatic... But his brain is leaking out his nose and he wasn't very smart to begin with. Elon is effectively dumber, because trump knows he's in this to get his bread buttered - Elon might have more ram, but he doesn't understand the difference between con and reality

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Maybe it's being neurodivergent but I have never understood his "charisma". He's always been a vile, crass, babbling, moron whose only "secret" to deal making had been finding rubes that didn't think his lifetime of theft of service, as well as just plain theft (that for was never prosecuted as it should have been because white collar crime) magically wouldn't apply to them.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

I mean, I've never enjoyed watching him speak, but charisma isn't just being convincing. It's controlling the atmosphere, controlling the conversation, making people cheer

You don't have to buy it to recognize charisma. People undeniably were taken in by it. He says the stupidest, most incoherent shit... But people still ate it up

If you want to truly understand, pick one of his older speeches, and watch it. Then, read the transcript. Even if you hate every moment of both, the difference is staggering

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I get it but don't "get it". I suppose I tend to think in terms of small groups rather than manipulating crowds of rubes that have been keeping in a state of perpetual outrage through decades of right-wing talk radio and TV, and are so desperate to be told what to do that P. T. Barnham would say "Hey now, that crosses a line."

I'd still suggest that it might be less charisma and more an audience so primed that they're near auto-ignition being subjected to a Hitler-fanboy who picked up a few things from professional wrestling.

Then again, I also don't "get" celebrity worship and numerous other NT things.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

The bill ends the carbon offset income that's the largest portion of Tesla's income. Combined with their sales being in the toilet because everybody hates him, and the company very well may not survive.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

It's funny to watch Ted Faro play out IRL lmao

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

When playing Forbidden West, I pretty quickly concluded that Faro was based on him. And the Zeniths were very much Bezos and friends.

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[-] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago

Fun fact: This isn't the first time they've worked together and broke up. IIRC, Trump choose Musk for some advisory role during his first term (I don't remember what, specifically). Musk resigned because Trump withdrew from the Paris Climate Accord.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

The fact that he was able to get this in the first people is lol

This is such a shit way to do industrial policy. Just hands out no conditions. China gonna teach US a lesson, gonna hurt. A generation of malinvestments across key industries. Clown capitalism.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

There is no fall out. They both are still getting exactly what they want. It is a ploy.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

This is just Trump's M.O. No reason required.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago
[-] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

Trump thinks Miller Light tastes great, Musk thinks it's less filling.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago

It's also possible that this is just political theater designed to distract people

[-] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

I feel like you don't call the President of the United States a kid fucker to millions of people unless you're serious. It's possible but it seems pretty unlikely

[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

That's what I thought originally but then I got high and thought about it more and it seemed pretty likely they could go that far. And things getting stranger than they already are seems likely to me.

EDIT: Also, Musk called that scuba diver guy a kid fucker. Nothing came of that except ridicule

[-] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

You're traumatized and overthinking it. They are not that smart. A good thing is happening. Enjoy it.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Also I think Tesla stock went up a bit since this whole thing started. Muskrat might just be trying to distance himself from Trump to save Tesla's sales numbers.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

You ever see what happens when you put two narcissists in the same room? This is what happens.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Have you heard the Tenacious D song “Two Kings”?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

“We don’t have to cognitive capacity to lead… ok we’ll do it”

[-] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

Because autocracy cannot sustain conflict of ideas. It was just a matter of time as every political scientist said 6 months ago.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

They're both raging self obsessed narcs who can't stand anyone else getting attention. It was just a matter of time.

Tl;dr: housecats

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Eel-on-musk saw a ray of daylight from the bottom of his k-hole and had a crisis of conscience…? Idk man everyone’s on drugs. And I do mean that literally, for this regime.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Musk was taking all the attention and jumping about like a dick.

First rift was musk was going to get classified briefings on China and Trump put a stop to it.

Also Musk had a fall out with Bessent and Trump sided with Besset.

Also rumoured he fucked Steven Millers wife (who is a lefty and would blacken a right eye with a hook).

Nothing to do with the bill at all IMO. He does not give a single fuck about that in any form. Just a pain point he knows he can drive a wedge through a big part of Trumps base.

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