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Makes you think. Just what should we do with Mar-a-lago when this is all over?
it's a golf course, which is, like, environmental imperialism or something. ecological deserts, wastes of water and space.
I say we repurpose it into a nature reserve, ie rip it all out and let nature take it back unimpeded, but under our protection
Hear me out, but maybe we should properly enshrine the grave on the course.
I say move the grave/body to a proper location, considering why she was buried there in the first place.
or maybe don't if the goal is erasure of all things Trump which was my unspoken goal for the nature reserve idea. undo his 'monuments' in the most antithetical way, make him forgotten
They commit to history erasure, we do not.
There is no high ground
Is this a Florida sea level joke?
I'm going to intentionally interpret your comment in a way I don't think it was intended.
LIke the finale of Yellowstone. Hell yes.
Low income housing developments for immigrants with free citizenship classes.
maybe it stays as a golf course, but no use of pesticides, herbicides, fungicides, heavily limits on fertilizer use, no watering except collected rainwater, rainwater, and/or tertiary treated sewage, nothing motorized, and nothing electric except from more environmental sources—maybe have a few wind turbines there—and/or wp:nickel-iron batteries.
Oh, see that's much more wholesome than what I was thinking.
Pave over it and erase it from history.
It really is a shame the Confederate generals weren't lined up and publicly hanged, but then as now, power gives you access to a different tier of 'justice'.
So true and being white.
We shoulda had him hanged by his balls.
Andrew Johnson is still the worst president the US ever had. He led us to where we are today by allowing the cancer to live and eat us alive from the inside out.
That would be to peaceful. I say set him on fire and let people take turns beating out the fire. Instead he became the 1st President of Washington and Lee University.
maybe do a few years picking cotton, with ex-slaves as overseers.
TIL: In the future all of Trump's golf courses will be filled with the bodies from the next civil war.
Only if we sit back and do nothing to change it. Trump is not a unicorn, he is a horse. America chose to allow this over years and years of voting.
Good.
Lee's more strict expectations and harsher punishments of the slaves on Arlington plantation nearly led to a revolt, since many of the enslaved people had been given to understand that they were to be made free as soon as Custis died, and protested angrily at the delay.
it doesn’t count if it’s from a terrorist leader.
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We love our traders
Going off memory, but Lee wasn't even really pissed about it either.
He fought harder than anyone else in the Confederacy against going to war, and was very open about how it would be an incredibly bloody and expensive war the South had zero chance of winning.
As soon as the war ended, he spent his time arguing for unification and against any commerarion of what he saw as the biggest stain on America's history.
But at the time the federal government was more like the EU, and everyone treated states like European countries. So Lee was loyal to his state.
It's important to understand what happened, because it's a great lesson on blind loyalty.
Lee thought the honorable thing to do was fight a war he disagreed with, but without Lee the South likely wouldn't have had the balls to do it. He was that good of a general, but the governors didn't listen to him, they had blind faith in him to win a war he told them was unwinnable.
So everyone just plowed ahead anyways and millions died horrible deaths.
Lee's reputation as an honorable man is something of a fabrication by false lost cause narratives.
The reality is that his reputation and skill as a military leader was overblown, and he was as cruel an enslaver as they come. He felt slavery was a cause worth fighting for, all to protect his/his family's wealth. If he chose to fight for the south in spite of low odds of winning, it's only more indicative of just how strongly he supported the confederacy and the right to own people.
The notion that he only acted out of loyalty to his home state is the work of lost causers trying absolve him of responsibility for betraying his country. This way, he can continue filling the role of (white) people's hero long after his death and get monuments built for him that celebrate and perpetuate confederate ideals. If Lee's decision was normal, one might ask why General George Henry Thomas, another Virginian, still chose to fight for the United States alongside 100,000 other southern unionists who disagreed with secession.
Lmao yeah right. If that were true he would have defected.
You missed the end apparently:
It’s important to understand what happened, because it’s a great lesson on blind loyalty.
Lee thought the honorable thing to do was fight a war he disagreed with, but without Lee the South likely wouldn’t have had the balls to do it. He was that good of a general, but the governors didn’t listen to him, they had blind faith in him to win a war he told them was unwinnable.
So everyone just plowed ahead anyways and millions died horrible deaths.
Like. You really think the lesson:
Just following orders isnt a valid excuse
Isn't important?
You can't think of a modern reason we'd want people to understand that?
We were immediately taken before Gen. Lee (http://fair-use.org/national-anti-slavery-standard/1866/04/14/robert-e-lee-his-brutality-to-his-slaves), who demanded the reason why we ran away; we frankly told him that we considered ourselves free; he then told us he would teach us a lesson we never would forget; he then ordered us to the barn, where, in his presence, we were tied firmly to posts by a Mr. Gwin, our overseer, who was ordered by Gen. Lee to strip us to the waist and give us fifty lashes each, excepting my sister, who received but twenty; we were accordingly stripped to the skin by the overseer, who, however, had sufficient humanity to decline whipping us; accordingly Dick Williams, a county constable, was called in, who gave us the number of lashes ordered; Gen. Lee, in the meantime, stood by, and frequently enjoined Williams to lay it on well, an injunction which he did not fail to heed; not satisfied with simply lacerating our naked flesh, Gen. Lee then ordered the overseer to thoroughly wash our backs with brine, which was done.
Doesn't sound like he stood on the side of progress. You are either knowingly or unknowingly white washing him. I hope you are doing the latter.
https://acwm.org/blog/myths-misunderstandings-lee-slaveholder/
He was that good of a general…
Somewhat related, he remains the only person to graduate West Point without a single demerit, IIRC. Granted, school accomplishments don’t necessarily translate into real world capability. Just a bit of trivia I’ve retained over the years.
wp:Robert E. Lee#Postbellum life
After the war, Lee was not arrested or punished (although he was indicted),[136] but he did lose the right to vote as well as some property. Lee's prewar family home, the Custis-Lee Mansion, was seized by Union forces during the war and turned into Arlington National Cemetery, and his family was not compensated until more than a decade after his death.[137]
...was not compensated...
I thought I was going to have an aneurysm there, ngl
lee was a total loser
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