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[–] 116 points 1 year ago (68 children)

using AI to create these images is really gonna help with the hole in the floor

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    We're losing this battle so quickly. It's unreal to me how fucked we are.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    In what way won't it help? Be specific.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (9 children)

    How energy intensive?
    Like, compared to random cat videos on youtube n all?

    And would the addition of renewable energy be able to handle it?

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Using it, not all that energy intensive (one llm use is roughly the same as 3 pre-ai-bullshit google searches iirc). Training it, very energy intensive.

    Yes it would but we haven't even replaced all our previous needs with renewables so it aint helping.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Using it, not all that energy intensive

    According to this article, this is not considered true anymore:

    As conversations with experts and AI companies made clear, inference, not training, represents an increasing majority of AI’s energy demands and will continue to do so in the near future. It’s now estimated that 80–90% of computing power for AI is used for inference.

    I think there's a reason why OpenAI, Microsoft, Google and Facebook hold the energy consumption and water usage numbers so close to their chest.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Oh damn. Very good article btw.

    According to numbers floating around online, thiat would mean one llama query is around as expensive as 10 google searches. And it's likely that those costs will increase further.

    It still seems like the biggest factor here is the scale of adaptation. Unfortunately the total energy costs of AI might even scale exponentially since the more complex the queries get, the better the responses will likely be. And that will further drive adaptation.

    This pace is so clearly unsustainable it's horrifying, and while it was obvious to some degree, it seems it's worse than I thought.

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    [–] 30 points 1 year ago* (23 children)

    Better to jump into shark infested waters than to try and patch a sinking ship

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago*

    Better to organize and join revolutionary parties that stand a chance to actually not sink, when neither the Democrats nor Republicans can patch the hole (move beyond Capitalism and into Socialism, that is). The hole is Capitalism, it cannot be fixed by parties who are bought by Capitalists to serve their interests.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    You make this point like there’s any other option.

    I would love to not have to vote for a Democrat.

    But I have to, because we are all doomed.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    There are other options. Join a socialist org and organize/eductate within your workplace and community.

    You don't have to vote for a Democrat.

    People have been voting Democrats the whole time on our path to where we are, it didn't stop us from being doomed. We had 2 Obama terms right before Trump 1, then we had a Biden term between Trump 1 and 2 and it stopped/fixed nothing.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    The reason there isn't any other option is because nobody puts in the effort to add other options.

    There's a Simpsons meme currently in Active on 196 rn from 1994 pointing out how ineffective both parties are. People have had longer than I have been alive to work on a third way.

    America isn't collapsing now all of a sudden. People have been passively watching it die for decades.

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    [–] 14 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Are you saying that you should vote blue as a form of harm reduction, or are you being sarcastic?

    Btw, either way it's kind of an American centric perspective. Here in the UK, the red party is the harm reduction party.

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    [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Bernie Sanders, "I'll drill a hole at the other end to allow the water to drain out."

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