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[–] [email protected] 131 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Tits censored, guess they are women then. Fuck the transphobes

[–] [email protected] 11 points 21 hours ago (7 children)

Unfortunately, in these cases, people make the mistake of thinking the law works like computer code. In reality, it doesn't.

People have this idea that law is just like computer code. You make one single definition and then build laws, like a mathematical edifice, around that definition. They think that if the law uses one definition in one place, it must use that definition in all places. They think the law works like a computer program or a physics equation. Change the constant and changes cascade through.

The law however is not a computer code. It is not a physics equation. The law has not, does not, and will likely never use consistent definitions throughout all contexts. Laws can be written with the same term defined multiple ways in different contexts. A tomato can be a vegetable in some legal contexts and a fruit in others. Someone can be legally male in some contexts but legally female in others.

Traditionally how this works with trans folks is, "your legal sex will be defined as whatever hurts you the most in the moment." Does a trans woman want to use a women's restroom? She will be defined as legally male and thrown out. Does she show her breasts in public as protest? Her chest will be considered legally female breasts. She will then be arrested and thrown in a male prison.

The law is not internally consistent. Don't make the mistake of thinking it is. Usually individual laws have their own definitions written into them. These definitions define what terms mean for the sake of applying that and only that law. And the definitions used can differ between different laws.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Love the message, but the blurb isn't correct. Police couldn't not arrest them because it would define them as a woman, outraging public decency and similar laws don't require specific genders.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I had a look further into this, because I wanted to better understand what factors might cause an act to be considered indecent exposure (or outraging public decency). This led me to some guidance on naturism and other non-sexual nudity, from the crown prosecution service.^1 It appears that having an "intention to cause alarm or distress" may be relevant for protests like this — arguably the entire point of the protest is to use the shock value of the nudity as a protest.

That being said, I think it's a bold move and possibly an effective protest. Even if public indecency laws are gender neutral, it would still be a strong message if any of these women got arrested for this — the reason why these women are capable of causing alarm or distress by going topless is because these are "female presenting nipples" (to use a heavily-memed phrase from the Tumblr porn ban era)


[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

Yes it would also come under some public order offences. Bottom line is, the legal def of woman wasn't the reason they didn't get arrested.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 17 hours ago

The police in Edinburgh aren't going to do anything. People get their tits 'n' bits out regularly "for art/paganism"

https://beltane.org/about-beltane/

[–] [email protected] 43 points 23 hours ago

Hmm...

spoiler


Pretty sure it's just a bug in the federation of images between blahaj.zone and lemmy.world, but it was a funny coincidence.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Biological women can do it too if they print and cut out pics of men nipples and stick them on top.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Omg I hate it so much, thank you

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Isn't public nudity legal in all UK? Policing aid:

Behaviour described by caller

Passive behaviours in public

Sunbathing, walking, cycling, swimming, gardening, home maintenance, etc.

Provide advice
If they are just being naked in public, it will be lawful activity
Explain to caller that no offences are being committed
No police action necessary

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago

This is fucking rad.

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