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YouTube suspends Russell Brand from making money off his channel — The suspension comes following the publication of rape and sexual assault allegations against the British star::YouTube has blocked Russell Brand from making money off its platform and the BBC pulled some of his shows from its online streaming service in the wake of rape and sexual assault allegations against the comedian-turned-influencer.

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[–] [email protected] 156 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I have no reason to doubt the allegations. But allegations shouldn't be enough for somebody to lose their livelihood.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Well I'm sure Google will be donating the money to sexual assault non profits rather than pocketing the profits right?

Right?

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

For 700 years one of the central principles of British law has been that someone shouldn't be punished without being brought in Answer by due Process of the Law.

It's scary how many people are willing to throw that out the window and behave like medieval peasants lynching witches.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think it's that simple. Heinous allegations can make that business relationship untenable. YouTube has an image to protect as well as other partnerships to maintain. There are people (not just wealthy executives) whose livelihood relies on those things,.

If a person's reputation, fair or not, creates a risk to those things, why should YouTube be forced to assume that risk on their behalf?

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Google again pretending to be the moral police. Based on accusations of something that might or might not have happened 20 years ago. Apparently they don't have a problem with him being on their platform or showing ads on his videos though, they just want to save some money and look like they're doing the right thing (they are not).

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Can't wait for a future where multibillion dollar corporations decide what's right and wrong and also who is and isn't guilty.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What do you mean, wait?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Just a reminder that there are a far more allegations against Trump, and Trump has been found liable for rape, and yet Trump is the frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Even if I find this appealing, I wonder why you need to do this whataboutism.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (24 children)

I think it’s important to point it out. The other rapist is exalted when he should be getting shut down too.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Just trying to resolve some cognitive dissonance for Trump supporters who maybe haven't thought about it in these terms.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Trump supporters are more dangerous.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Great, now demonitize the catholic church while you're at it.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Is it against YT TOS or did they take the liberty with this decision

Second, as much as I have always found him sketchy and a very irritating person, I am very alarmed by the erosion of people's right to be presumed innocent until found guilty. even when I know that he is quite capable of the committing those allegation

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A platform can choose themselves who they extend the platform to.

It may not be justice, but if Youtube decides to demonetise every video featuring red sweaters, then they have the liberty to do so.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (16 children)

That's too much power for a monopoly to have. And YouTube is quite close to a monopoly.

Maybe "more fool you" but entire livelihoods and businesses rely on YouTube not cutting them off at any random moment with no notice or warning.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

My god... some of the commenters would make you think he was being sent to the lethal injection chamber.

The guy had his account demonetized. He's not even banned from YouTube. He can post as many videos as he wants. He just doesn't get paid for them. Which makes him... like most of us who post YouTube videos. The horror!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's scary seeing how many people also don't understand that these laws protect you from government entities.

IYoutube is considered a private company, as it isn't run by the government. So, protective laws against government rules don't really apply. Proper court proceeding would be good, yes, but youtube is not the Court. Youtube can and does control what is on their platform. They are contract bound to advertiser interests, and their advertisers don't want to risk encouraging him if he is guilty. That is also their right, as they are also private entities. There is nothing that obligates them to continue funding someone. They could also decide to stop funding because the guy like bagels.

As a private entity, google could theoretically stop every single youtube channel today, if they chose to do so. They can decide to not host your content just because you like potatoes over radishes. It's their private platform.

I don't get why that's complex. Private vs public.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (15 children)

It’s not the fucking job of YouTube to judge and punish. We have judges and the Criminal Code for that. We should not let us ruled by corporations!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm guessing the challenge is advertisers. Advertisers buy ad space next to or in video content. No advertiser wants to buy ad space that is adjacent to or makes it look like they are supporting someone under public scrutiny for sexual assault allegations. So as Google, where you need to sell good ad space to paying advertisers, bother with running ads next to Russel Brand or just say no and make that clear to advertisers to build confidence?

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I have no idea if he did or didn't any of the alleged. But what happened to innocent u til proven guilty? Anyone accused of anything these days gets cancelled.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean there are definately people who havent been canceled. Reminder that Chris Brown is probably bigger than he once was and everyone knows hes actually beaten up people

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Google is not the law, and they can do whatever they want with their company.

They don’t have to continue to pay him if they don’t want to — innocent, guilty, whichever. Just like they don’t have to continue to host nazi garbage or MAGA garbage if they don’t want to.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Google is not the law, and they can do whatever they want with their company.

Sure, but imagine your employer just fired you because of accusations before it ever reached trial. Illegal? No. Ruining someone's livelihood even though they're innocent legally speaking? Yes.

Not defending this person, I genuinely do not even know who they are. But "private company can do whatever they want, your rights are only something the government has to care about" is a pretty concerning position to take. Not to mention they didn't seem to take down or stop running ads on the channel, just stopped giving him the money. They're profiting off of his content without paying him and using an unverified (but very possibly accurate) accusation as an excuse. That should be illegal.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Since when did innocent until proven guilty stop being a thing? Not defending anyone here, just seems that principle is all but forgotten in modern society.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (9 children)

That's only a legal principle - he's not in jail, is he? Individuals and organizations can do whatever they want. It has nothing to do with modern society.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Youtube cutting off their monetisation is not the same as putting the person in jail.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (17 children)

If you ever get accused of a crime, your whole life should be cancelled as a precautionary measure /s

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Another way this could be phrased is - Following serious allegations of rape and sexual assaults advertiser's do not wish to be associated with Russell Brand so YouTube stops showing their adverts on his channel

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (14 children)

It's kind of weird how so much of this thread seems to think a monetized YouTube channel is a human right or something

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

Guilty until proven Innocent, and even then still kinda guilty.

That's just how people operate today, and it's disgusting

Edit: Second sentence added for clarity

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My dad got sucked into the Russell Brand woo during the pandemic. Maybe he'll finally come to his senses now this guy is an obvious fraud?

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