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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Eh 70 dollars for 10 hours of repetitive gameplay is bad value anyway.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Don't tell competitive gamers that. LOL, CS, Overwatch, COD whatever is about a simple game loop for those who enjoy that loop.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (8 children)

No way, it’s only 10 hours? Eternal was longer than that, and so was 2016!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I finished DOOM (2016) in 8.8 hours. Granted I didn't stop for collectables and was on normal mode. I tried Eternal but got bored after 2 hours so that's what I'm basing it off.

My steam friends currently have about 17 hours (they bought it early) but they like collecting stuff and getting 100% achievements. I'm not sure how long the story is without 100%ing it but it shouldn't be too different from the other games.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Seeing this pains me, especially considering Id Software's history with Linux. Prior to being bought by Bethesda, most of Id's games had official native Linux ports. Even Doom 3 had a native Linux port, it doesn't seem to work anymore but there are source ports like Dhewm3 available for it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

It wouldn't astonish me if this were a semi-deliberate act by microsoft. While they're trying very hard to expand to every platform, non-windows pcs seem to be the exception. Linux and OSX have the game gamepass support as your phone.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is what happens when bean counters make the decisions. Linux is only 4% of market share so I am sure the cost of supporting Linux users was not worth it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

so I am sure the cost of supporting Linux users was not worth it.

What's so fucking annoying about these DRM issues is that basically all of the AntiCheat and DRM we have WORK ON LINUX IF YOU ENABLE ONE FUCKING SETTING

Easy AntiCheat for example is quite literally a checkbox at some point of compiling or whatever, I've seen someone do it!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It never is just a checkbox though. You have to test the result and with Linux you have to test dozens of distros. For a fraction of users. If Linux crowd wants to be taken seriously, they should settle on a single distro for everything.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Shows you how little they value Linux games

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Earlier this year, I got a game I liked on steam. Pretty much 3d Rimworld. After playing for 20 hours over a few weeks, I sporadically started getting errors about me having "no hardware activations" left for the game, and how I should wait 24 hours. I have never installed it on any other machine.

It is so very silly that a pirated copy would be the more seamless experience.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Aside from screwing Linux users, they're also screwing AMD users with forced ray-tracing + broken FSR, and I'd imagine there's also a lot of overlap there.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Fuck Microsoft. They enshittify everything and they support a genocide by helping to select targets to murder. No game is worth supporting this.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I remember when their DRM was just telling you that you'd go to HELL if you pirated it.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Was this before or after this: https://lemmy.world/post/29593011

Because I'm curious why Valve would have gone to so much trouble to make the game run on Linux just to ruin that.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 day ago (4 children)

All this drm nonsense ever does is punishes the paying customers and maybe delays cracked version by a few days, but fucking pencil pushers still put it into everything.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

you aren't buying doom because it has denuvo. im not buying doom because i am boycotting microsoft products. we are probably a little similar

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Also it's $80 fucking dollars for the base edition. Everyone complaining about Nintendo game pricing but Doom gets a pass apparently.

[–] [email protected] 212 points 2 days ago (22 children)

Just another reason to wait long after release to buy a game. Denuvo charges games companies to administer the DRM infrastructure and most developers will strip it out of their games after it's been out for a while.

Buying games on launch is one of the most anti-customer experiences you can get. And that's saying something in our wonderful capitalist economy

[–] [email protected] 156 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Buying a game post-launch:

  • Better prices; often on sale.
  • Fixed and patched up.
  • Extra content often included.
  • DRM often removed.

No brainer, imo.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Remember when games used to, at least sometimes... do actual internal beta testing to iron out performance bugs and such?

Now we are all alpha and beta testers, all the time.

Sometimes even AAA and 'AAAA' games release, and then unrelease before the alpha or beta is even done!

Yeah, patient gaming for me, haven't preordered or gone into an early access game in almost a decade now...

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Denuvo identifies a user opening a game with multiple versions of Proton as multiple machines. It thinks that's piracy and locks the user out of the game

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yet more evidence that the smartest thing you can do if the game comes from a AAA studio is hold off on buying it for 6-12 months.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If the game comes with Denuvo, never, ever buy it.

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[–] [email protected] 120 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Refund and wait for a crack. Fuck Denuvo and fuck Bethesda for using them

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I never buy/install games with Denuvo. Guess it will be a while before I'm playing this.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While it has Denuvo it can get fucked, they'll remove it in a few years, I'm a very patient gamer with a family group that has 1.5k games in library.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I'm more and more convinced that Doom 2016 was the peak. Eternal had that one song that kicked ass but that was mostly it.

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 2 days ago

You get what you pay for. You buy denuvo, you get denuvo.

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