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I happen to like it very much.

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[–] [email protected] 119 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It completely replaced Reddit for me. I love the project. It is getting better and better.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago
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[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 year ago (6 children)

People singing praises, but it needs to improve, i shouldnt need another website to find communities; also the state of fractured communities with same name that dilute content.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

On the flip side, major communities being hosted on defederated instances is a concern.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which is great to do, we can like something and want it to improve at the same time.

Better blocking feels like a priority for me because it would quell most of the defederation issues.

  • instance only defederates from illegal content / scams
  • users block instances, communities, and users they don't want
  • recommended block lists that users can import (from the instance, from somewhere else, etc.)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This also reminds me that Lemmy needs better mod tools. I think that's part of the reason Beehaw defederated

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As others have said, it doesn't quite have the user base to reach critical mass. A lot of my old favorite subs aren't here.

Also...the user base isn't as diverse. I used to click through to see the comments on Reddit to find those comments that provided fresh perspective, gave more context, or explained nuance. You'd click on some thread about Trump's latest legal troubles and get some real information about why things are moving slowly or why the defense made a particular choice. Or go into a thread about some upcoming video game being cancelled, or Google plan being changed or whatever, and get an actual analysis about how the financials don't work, or maybe how the market changed, or how some users were abusing the system.

On Lemmy, I often find myself just skipping the comments. They seem much more uniform, all just repeating the popular line: variants of "Ha, fuck Trump!" "Lol, Russia sucks!" "Company X doing this should be against the law!" etc. I can usually predict what the comments are going to be without bothering to read them, and rarely do I come out with new information. It feels much more like an echo chamber.

Part of it is just that there's not as many users, I think, so there's just not as many posts and thus fewer 'gems'. Also, I think that the users who made the effort to migrate from Reddit probably skew younger, tend to be more uniformly left-leaning, and a larger share will be students or programmers as opposed to lawyers or carpenters or auto mechanics.

The especially annoying thing is that the same thing seems to have happened on Reddit. Yeah, I still moonlight there when I run out of content on Lemmy. And the number of comments seems to have dwindled, and the viewpoint diversity seems to have narrowed there, too. Maybe the normies just gave up and left.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This might sound weird but there are a lot more assholes here than reddit.

On Reddit you can expect some percentage of the people to be assholes because some percentage of the population are assholes... but here, heaven forbid you go against the grain of the narrative.

As opposed to reddit, where most of the people are nice and some are assholes, here only some are nice and the majority are assholes.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People are a little too enthusiastic about their opinions here. It's kind of not great. I'm just here to enjoy myself and pass the time.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're absolutely right! And people keep saying that they're nicer here which is not the case at all!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Counterpoint. It depends massively on what communities you use. So there’s a not so small possibility that both you and the people you disagree with are right.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For now, I find it kind of boring. On reddit, I used to spend more time in comment sections than regularly scrolling. Now I don't really do that, because there are either no comments or the comments are the same.

When I started using lemmy with the default sorting option ('active' i think?), I would see the same posts for days, now I use top 6 hours and that problem is fixed, but lemmy now feels like a news site with comments. Also I am European, but it feels like 50% of content is some local American politics. I don't care about my own town's politics, so I don't care about that guy from Minnesota either.

A post from asklemmy hasn't shown up in my feed in a long time and I kind of forgot it existed, but looking into it, looks like one of the only interesting places here, so I guess, I have visit it more often.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Linux/FOSS Bros are ruining it for me more and more every day.

Not even with my comments, but others. I'm so sick of seeing basic comments extremely downvoted because "ThaTs NoT OpeN sOurCe".

Like a post a was reading a few minutes ago about Microsoft Paint being updated, and someone said it was Windows 11 exclusive, and the other guy said Windows 11 isn't half bad. The comment is super downvoted, because Linux best, Windoze BAD!

You're going to drive away people who just want to have a conversation if you guys don't learn how to be normal, holy shit. I'm a tech bro and you're driving ME away.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Open source, left is good, right is not, there is no center, eat the rich. Oh and because I can't buy a house the world is fucked. Fucking billionaire landlords.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Discussion is difficult. This place feels like a club sometimes, and if you don't subscribe to the exact same ideals, you just get shouted down. I'm here for discussion, and dissenting opinions, but it just isn't allowed to exist here.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To add on to this; Smugness is rampant. It reminds me of Linux user Groups in college. More than half the time was spent shitting on Windows (Reddit), and if you dared to ask a question you were ridiculed for not knowing it, or people who put more effort into telling you to look it up yourself than it would take to answer you in the first place. I can echo the same club mentality as I’ve on more than one occasion described why a particular political idea isn’t viable based on votes in Congress only to be dismissed without any counter argument as “I don’t understand _____”. So there really is no discussion, it’s essentially just shitposting and piling on, and if I liked that I would have stayed on Facebook.

We need more kind diverse people.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At this point, I don't even care if they're kind, I just want discussion.

I often delete comments before I even post them, knowing that it just isn't worth it most of the time.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I cringe when I see new messages. Aw fuck, who did I piss off now?

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's a solid meh.

I came for a reddit replacement and instead I found an interesting subset of what I got at Reddit. And it is not better content or engagement wise. It's useful but niche, and therefore less useful overall than Reddit was.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

I wish some of the niche communities were more active but overall I like it very much. It's my go to diversion.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

It's organic, and full of Internet weirdos, feels like reddit of decades ago, except everyone kinda knows each other here.

Sometimes the reddit circlejerks do flare up though.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Meh. Its slow, and the politics are more extreme. I've spent a good portion filtering most politics that I can out of my feed.

It's alright here. There's enough to keep me off reddit and not enough to keep me on my phone constantly.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I LOVE the idea of Lemmy and the decentralized web and people coming together to forge our own way. But there's a far too high ratio of elitism, smugness, arrogance and belittlement to people that just want to discuss the things we enjoy. It is just really unfortunate. I don't engage very much, or at all really so I understand part of that is on me, but every discussion I find I'd like to chime in on is already polluted by assholes. It's just disheartening.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I'm getting very tired of the privacy nuts. I get that it's important, but I don't want to hear about it all the fucking time. I also miss my city subreddit, but I'd rather hear about how Google's fucking me over for bajillionth time than use the Reddit app.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I find a lot of the people here to be extremely bitter resentful people. But I'm willing to give it a chance.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's good but it doesn't feel like there are many vibrant communities with their own subculture. I know I'm part of the problem. I've heard people say 90% are lurkers, 9% are posters, and 1% are content creators. I'm clearly in that second category.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I like Lemmy, but I do have some problems with it. Based on my experience.

All the big Lemmy instances is biased for the Left wing, like Reddit is.

If you go against the popular opinion. You will get dogpiled. To be fair, this happens everywhere. But I was hoping Lemmy will be different. So it's mainly on me for hoping.

The niche communities are dead or dying. This a population problem, but it still sucks.

They need to give us (the users) the ability to block instances.

Outside that stuff, I like Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (26 children)

When you say "left wing". I assume you use the US political reference, right?

Just so you know, in a lot of places, "US left wing" is further right than the most (non-fringe) right wing party there is.

And as such, the perception of politics in the US goes from "insane but maybe a step in the right direction" to "absolute evil and/or destructive/immoral"

My point, which I'm not trying to make to annoy or offend you, but you might want to reflect on: A lot of what is considered "political left wing" in the US, is "common sense" elsewhere.

So, you running into discussion forums is not necessarily that they are "left wing", but rather not deprived of morality, and share a different set of common sense values of creating a society that is fair, the vulnerable and sick are taken care of, no one is exploited, etc etc. That just happens to be "socialism" according to Americans, and otherwise the full political spectrum in my country as to the nuances on how to best achieve that.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

i wish there were more people on here, i feel like i'm talking to a wall

i'm pretty sure i'm basically the only poster on r/hongkong and i'm not even a mod there (which would be a valid reason for being the only poster)

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Its kinda lacking a pulse and the people here are no different than on reddit.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Buggy and full of loud ignorant assholes. So pretty in-brand with my decades of experience online.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Way better the Reddit, just wish my city subreddit would move over.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Good aside from all the repetitive content. One of the problems with federation, I suppose. Someone sees an article they like and they feel they have to post it on every community related to politics on every instance they can find, for example. Mostly a politics problem, but also memes and gaming and technology. Okay, not mostly a politics problem.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s alright. Doesn’t replace what I got from Reddit but I also use it less and it’s only form of social media so that’s a plus.

The political environment is rough. Lemmygrad and hexbear are toxic cesspools, which is unfortunate because I would genuinely like to engage with their political ideology more seriously but it’s inevitably drowned out by… well… them.

I’ve blocked most of the top posters over there and things are much more peaceful, if quiet.

There’s still a lack of content creators out there, which is an issue. Growth is going to be a problem because, to be blunt? Lemmy is dogshit before you block all the spam, political shitposting, and those fucking Reddit repost bots.

Until the new user experience is cleaned up I don’t expect Lemmy to gain users on average. I’ll probably spin up my own instance in AWS at some point to play with it, or self host on some inexpensive hardware.

Tl;Dr: I get what I want from it but don’t see it having healthy long term growth

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's ok. Lots of very young people talking a lot about things they don't understand like its a fact.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Kinda tired of hearing about Linux tbh

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There is a lot of it, probably because the people tempted to join Lemmy/the fediverse are more technologically literate. I'm more tired of the constant "I like Lemmy" and "Reddit bad" stuff. I've seen basically this exact thread probably a dozen times already.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

The people here are my people. However, Lemmy needs a bigger user base, and at the same time I fear that Eternal September

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I feel like Lemmy is on its way and its main benefit is that it's not as cynical as Reddit to EACH OTHER.

So many people on reddit gripe about the smallest shit, especially the Steam Deck reddit, that conversations become either you're with my ideas or you're against my ideas. Like even though you're just trying to help others play a game, "I'm insulting you for free because of the way you said lowest fps is 33 with drops down to 29. I don't think it means what you think it means." (of course shoving a meme in there because that's their identity at this point)

I clearly meant average, but oh here comes -20 comment score when I explain that.

I see nicer comment chains from people on opposing political sides here even though I know a usual reaction these days would be to tear at each others' throats. Lemmy isn't devoid of it, but Jesus at least it isn't like how Reddit predictably uses a scalpel on your comments to find something to complain about.

But I think this might be the result of tailoring my experience over time with instances I want to see from and communities. That level of customization is awesome. But it does suck to see so many instance drama things happening in a much more rapid pace than reddit.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's boring enough so i don't get addicted. I got clean from Reddit and I don't need another endless scroller.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Great for daily mindless scrolling.
Still has a ways to go before it's as useful as reddit was for searching for specific information tho.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I love it tbh. Even when people disagree with me it doesn't feel like I'm being attacked. On Reddit it feels like I'm being attacked even when someone agrees with me.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I like it. No FREAKING ADS disguised as posts/comments. I was late to know third party apps exists for lots of things, so being aware of lemmy has changed my browsing habits on other platforms i.e looking for alternatives that work or have a model that I don’t feel too conflicted about (which honestly makes me happier). It’s the right amount of silent and busy for me. I’m just hoping for elephant-obsessed people (among other niche communities) to exist/gain a medium level of traction (frankly, even a basic amount would be okay). I also like that its name sounds like LET ME/ LEMME (lemme do what anything I want as long as it doesn’t harm the next person).

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

not nearly enough niche content like reddit because of the sheer lack of users, but browsing all is ok. except the content on all is lacking too its usually a linux post, an old meme, or biden in some capacity.

ahem and the porn sucks

i can only use the reddit app for like 5 minute intervals so u can extrapolate what i use it for

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

It needs more memes and less edgy teenagers screaming about politics (that they clearly don't understand and take way too seriously).

Seriously I come to websites like this to get a mix of news and humour, not get yelled at by children who advocate for totalitarian regimes to "own the libs", I am on the verge of changing instances because lemm.ee won't let me block all of the two offenders at once, and I have to constantly remove every bullshit new sub they create, not to mention them infesting the comments section of anything news related to scream about "libs".

Literally they are indistinguishable from reddits T_D crowd, they act just as hateful and use the same language, they seem more concerned with "the libs" than any other political group, and they worship mass murdering dictators while being holocaust deniers / apologists. They can call themselves leftists as much as they want, all I see from them is hatred so they might as well be Trump Qanon Cultists.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Overall I like Lemmy, but there's also a lot of doomers on here that do everything they can to make everyone feel miserable. I had to trim out a lot of communities that they tend to infest, so now I'm not getting as much interaction and have moved some of my traffic back to Reddit to have enough things to browse

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Cool. I just really wish there was more people on [email protected] . Currently there's just one more person it seems.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I like it, it's just missing some niche communities.

But overall, I get more response in "populated" communities compared to popular subreddits which is neat.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's definitely not a replacement for Reddit, and a lot of assholes have come over.

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