this post was submitted on 11 May 2025
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 19 hours ago

The "web's business model" doesn't have to be the web's business model. Advertising was the Original Sin of the Internet and the source of its enshittification.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 21 hours ago

The main issue is that nobody is going to want to create new content when they get paid nothing or almost nothing for doing so.

This is the whole reason copyright is supposed to exist. Content creators get exclusive control over the content they create for the duration of the copyright, so they can make a living off of work that then enriches society. And for the further benefit of society, after 14 years this copyright ends and the works become public domain, where anyone can create derivative works that will have copyright on them going to their own creators and the cycle continues, further enriching society.

Large companies first perverted this by getting Congress to extend the duration of copyright to truly absurd levels so they could continue to extract wealth from works they had to spend very little to maintain (mostly lawyers to enforce their copyrights). Since only they could create derivative works for 100(!) years, they did not have to compete with other creators in society, giving themselves a monopoly on what become cultural icons. Now corporate America has found a way to subvert creation itself, but it requires access to effectively all copyrighted works everywhere simultaneously. So now they just ignore the copyright, since it is impeding their wealth accumulation.

And so now the creative engine copyright is supposed to foster dies, taking the social enrichment it was designed to facilitate with it. People won't stop making art or generating what's supposed to be copyrighted works, but when they can't making a living on it, they have to turn it into a hobby and spend the bulk of their time and energy on work that will put food on the table.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

To be fair, this isn't necessarily a bad thing. Because the current business model is mass surveillance, selling people's data, harvesting every tiny bit of user attention and manipulate them, making everything an outrage, confining people into filter bubbles, endless annoyances and enshittification... I wouldn't make me super sad if that were to die... So if it's just the title... go ahead. Sadly there is more to the story. And also Cloudflare isn't exactly healthy for the internet. (And their bot detection doesn't work very well in practice.)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Cloudflare is stellar. I just bought tickets to SeaWorld and my mobile phone was successfully blocked from being able to open the automatically emailed link with the ticket pdf in it. Top notch security.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It amazing how every fucking service needs Cloudflare connection on top...

I know there is a valid reason for this... Allegedly but it surely would make it easy for a threat actor to correlate your actions

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't think there is a valid reason to this. I mean they offer several other services as well. But I think many, many people use it instead of other web application firewalls, because Cloudflare are good snake-oil salesmen and everyone else is using it too, so it must be valid. And there is a free tier, and nobody cares giving away their and their customer's private data and introducing one big single point of failure to the internet...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

Thank you for additional context. I did hear about that fucking free tier... Its like that guy in prison... Shit ain't free!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ai is enhancing the mass surveillance model not ripping it down.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Sure. I edited my comment. I didn't want to imply the thing after that will be any better... That's still open to debate. It's likely not going to get better. Though, if we keep the tracking and surveillance, it's not really changing the business model. So there's that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

There is a change. Instead of people engaging with the shitty data harvesting voluntarily due to being unaware it is being forced on everyone including those who are aware.

I can guarantee all the 'opt out' choices are lies and they are harvesting the data anyway.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I've never had a look at the code of a major commercial platform, so I don't really know whether those options do something. But sure. I'm not relying on it too much. I regularly decline and switch everything off. And I hope they at least honor my setting to not sell my data to third parties... But I don't invest a lot of time into this, I don't trust them so I rather avoid giving them too much data in the first place.

I'm curious how they're going to monetize services like ChatGPT. Whether they put ad banners on the website and app, or make the chatbot recommend certain products to you...

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago

Google has become pretty much useless. If I want to search for something I start with chatGPT or Claude and just ask for relevant links. The summaries they give are ok but not nearly that accurate. Hence always asking for links. As of now, it bypasses the optimized cruft Google's first page of search results has turned into.