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For me it's Dragon Ball Z, that was a pretty fucked up show tbh.

Like holy shit, all the characters are terrible people except maybe Gohan and Trunks.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I used to watch Comedy Central tv movies. So pretty much all of those. Also, when I was like 7 I loved Inuyasha and thought Miroku was charming 🤮🤮🤮

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Steins;gate. I like the plot, but every single male character is a total misogynist pig. At least Ruka cracked my egg a tiny bit. I knew I liked her more than I 'should' but I didn't know why. Also the one scene with her was really rough.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Oh boy, I started playing through the visual novel 2 years ago and I was kinda intrigued by the plot at the start, but as it went on the misogyny got so freaking bad that I quit and wrote an entire hexbear rant post about it. The people who made Steins;Gate absolutely do not see women as real people. I remember there is a scene where Kurisu is at the main character's place, they argue about something (I forgot the details) but the conclusion is that in order to get Kurisu to do something, the protagonist and his buddy basically threaten her with sexual harrassment ("You're alone in here with the 2 of us wink wink") and it's played so casually, and Kurisu's reaction is basically just "ugh, fine" instead of being fucking horrified and never stepping in a room with these people ever again.

Anime frequently objectifies and infantitilizes women, but Steins;Gate shows outright contempt for its female characters. It hurts them, degrades them and "puts them in their place" at every opportunity and then pats itself on the back as those same female characters come crawling back to their women-hating protagonist because the authors are red pill creeps who believe those stupid females secretly love it when men treat them like dirt.

Fuck Steins;Gate.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I used to be BIG into black metal.

Then I got more politically engaged and now I screen just about every band I listen to for anything shitty. Needless to say, I have not kept up with black metal in YEARS due to that.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

what's up with Mr popo

Also not dbz (probably also dbz) but pigsy from monkey magic was fucking groooss
I liked the themes of transcending boundaries, even if I can't punch holes through time

I liked Burke's Backyard and The Bill don't @ me

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As a toddler till like 13 I had a high amount of interest in ww2

specifically german military stuff

cringe

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (20 children)

Though I consumed many pieces of fiction mentioned here, and admit they made they problematic assumptions, I want to disagree with the general vibe that it is the job of fiction to be perfect and unproblematic in every way.

I can absolutely see how bad messaging could make you not enjoy it, and bad messaging is always worthy of criticism, but it doesn't inherently make any fiction objectively 'bad'.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I was super into Terry Goodkind's novels when I was 12. thankfully I kept reading and developed some taste. embarrassing

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

There was a guy here like yesterday that swore up and down that Ayn-Rand-with-swords-and-more-sexual-violence had no political messaging whatsoever and was actually super insightful with lessons for life like "everyone else is stupid but you, the reader who is reading this who agrees with the author."

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

When I was an early teenager or preteen, can't remember which, I watched some anime called Love Hina, and holy shit, is it terrible. Both the main character's girlfriend constantly punching him (because domestic violence is so funny when it's female-on-male, right?) and the whole "Oops, I accidentally just sexually harassed you!" That's just what I remember. There's probably a lot more worse shit about it.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

in the early seasons of adventure time a lot of the episodes had the explicit message that pacifism is stupid and violence is entirely necessary to solve problems. haven't seen anything problematic yet but i did skip a couple episodes

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago

Krillin was my favorite Z fighter and they turned him into a cop rage-cry

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

I don’t know if it was “fucked up,” but Misadventures of Flapjack is about an alcoholic step dad who’s neglectful of his kid’s life and safety, while his whale stepmother is overprotective (and rightfully so because everyone in the harbor is a psychopath)

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yeh ngl I still love Dragon Ball but Mr Popo is super suss and Master Roshi is incredibly wack. The portrayal of women in general is wack.

I don't think the characters in general are supposed to be morally perfect or anything like that, and I don't see why that detracts from the quality of a show, depending on how its presented (which is why the representation of Mr Popo and Roshi are big time criticizable). I mean technically Dragon Ball is basically space opera with its mix of East Asian mythological and sci-fi elements with soap and sit com elements for good measure, so evil dudes doing evil shit is expected.

The fights are still fucking awesome tho

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