How exactly does Iowa have standing for such a claim? In 2009 the Iowa Supreme court affirmed that the right to marry (gay or otherwise) was enshrined in the state constitution. Even if SCOTUS made such a ruling at the federal level, it wouldn't change the state constitution.
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Standing is an antiquated concept at this point. Particularly when it comes to attacking queer rights. They can do whatever they want.
In this case they're joining a number of other states in trying to overturn Obergefell, they're flat out ignoring Varnum and the state situation.
Jesus: everybody love each other. That’s it that’s the whole thing.
American Christians: what a ninny. We’re not doing that.
Aziraphale and Crowley looking at Jesus during the crucifixion.
Crowley: What was it he said that got everyone so upset?
Aziraphale: “Be kind to each other.”
Crowley: Oh, yeah. That'll do it.
In fairness, the thing he said that got everyone upset was "I am the King of Kings, abandon all your worldly ties and join me on a pilgrimage to the capital city of the Levant. I will fulfill the ancient prophecy of a new independent Jewish state blessed by the One True God who may or may not also be me, we'll sort that out in another 300 years."
But the "Good Omens" line makes for better dark comedy.
I mean it’s all a magical story about a dude who didn’t exist at all probably.
But the “teachings” exist.
Yet the American Christian resists the message but embraces the magic.
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No, their minds are more warped than that. They claim they are loving others by acting the way they do. From their point of view, the fate of our eternal souls is far more valuable than the feelings of a fleshy body. To them, it's love to keep gays from marrying, to deny trans peoples' identities, to force kids and women to give birth to their rapist's babies... Etc... That's all Christian Love.
No hate like Christian love
"The Bible says homosexuality is abhorrent."
"How many types of fabric are in that shirt?"
"... that passage is ambiguous!"
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Whistling
There's no love quite like Christian hate.
Jesus: Everybody love each other. That’s it that’s the whole thing.
American Christians: Okay, okay. That's cool... uh, but not f*gs right?
Jesus: Did I fucking stutter?
I gotchu
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I was recently watching the episode of The Handmaid's Tale where a woman can't travel with her wife and child because their marriage isn't recognized anymore and sadly thinking "this is really going to happen soon"
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Gotta distract from the grift. Whip up the MAGAt morons and make them blame gay people for their problems and they won't even notice you yoinking their social security, their pensions, health.
Wish someone would introduce a ban for being a bigoted PoS republikkkan...
I'm queer, and fortunately in the UK. But this still fucking hurts and scares me, mainly because of how it'll effect the community in the US but also for me.
Lgbt people in the US can see these headlines and end up living in denial about there sexuality, living lies, being miserable and sometimes even killing themselves. Anti gay people feel vindicated by this shit, and say and do things to LGBT people they meet.
For myself, it influences the bigots through the world. Even in my professional workplace there's colleagues that aren't positive about it. We can get targeted for bullying or worse.
It's just so sad
… I’m waiting for interracial marriage to also come up… were regressing at lightning speed.
Well that would just fall under the general category of DEI marriage. The only true marriage is between two white men, but not in a gay way obviously.
They’ll ask to have it “sent it back to the states.”
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...Dunno, sounds like a you problem to me.
This is not how SCOTUS decisions are handled. State legislatures passing resolutions (Oklahoma did this, too, right?) shouldn't be relevant to the Court at all. Of course, Thomas may well pen a response outlining exactly what fascists would need to do to get a winning case before the Court, as a treat.
Anyway, while this is painfully stupid, and certainly a test balloon, this carries zero weight whatsoever. We are in bizzaroland, though, so who knows.
There isn't really a mechanism for the court to take up a case without an actual case. Of course, it's only a matter of time before Liberty or some other conservative outlet gins up a manufactured victim of gay marriage to bring before the court since this court has established that standing can be purely fictional (as long as it's for conservative causes) and precedent doesn't matter.
Nothing better to do then this?
Trying to decide who gets to have a government approved contract for the thing people are going to do anyways?
What a bunch of do nothing waste of time assholes.
It’s all very “We’re miserable, so you have to be too.”
Yes but if they weren't spending all their time oppressing minority groups they'd have to solve actual problems and that's hard.
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From the text of the resolution:
BE IT RESOLVED BY THE SENATE, THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES CONCURRING, That the General Assembly of the State of Iowa rejects the decision of Obergefell v. Hodges ; and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That the General Assembly of the State of Iowa calls upon the Supreme Court of the United States to reverse the Obergefell decision, and restore the natural definition of marriage, a union of one man and one woman...
Does the Supreme Court even have the power to reverse a previous decision without a new case revisiting the issue?
And doesn’t it violate the separation of powers in multiple respects for a state legislature to tell the Supreme Court how to interpret the federal constitution?
What Republicans have come to realize (and Democrats refuse to accept) is that you can just DO THINGS at the executive level. And if the bureaucrats follow along, then you've functionally established new policy.
The Iowa legislature can pass a rule saying "No more issuing marriage contracts to gay couples" and the state courts can say "Okay, we'll stop doing that and we'll also stop recognizing existing contracts", and all the low level county officials can just ignore the legal status of gay married families and then private businesses can follow suit. And then that's it. No SCOTUS decision is going to pay out on insurance benefits claims to a legally de-certified no-longer-spouse.
On the flip side, the Iowa legislature can author this act and the people of Iowa can rise up in protest and say "Fuck you, we won't do what you tell us." Private businesses can continue to honor marriage contracts. Low level bureaucrats can continue to treat gay couples as married. Mid-level bureaucrats can defend and promote them. High level bureaucrats who continue to force these abhorrent laws on people can be removed from office.
The problem is that... the fish rots from the head. More likely than not, we're seeing this push because Iowa's basket of deplorable plutocrats want to expand the number of minorities they can piss and shit all over. Just like how DOGE gutted the "Woke" federal bureaucracy, I suspect we're going to see Iowa state leadership tearing the spine out of any state or local government agency that refuses to accept gay rights are expired.
Do you have the courage to stand up to your boss? Do you have the support of your friends and coworkers to call a strike in a business that singles out the LGBTQ folks who work there? Will you march on your city council and demand they take your side or get out of the way? Will you march on your state house? Will you stare down a bunch of bigots in badges when you do it?
This is a big ask and its not easy to find enough folks willing to stand up for what is right.
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How about we just stop honoring Republicans' right to marriage? They're all abusers anyway so it'd probably save some people's lives.
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Now for black, Hispanic, Asian and women's right.
The new fuck the Hispanic, Black, Asian, and women's rights Bill.
"this bill will strip citizens of all their rights. It's called the Freedom of Rights Bill."
Freedom From Rights bill.
Can't get out of this fucking country fast enough. Just needs to keep it together for a couple more months then I'm escaping
Abolish and criminalize religion
Instead of giving the state another avenue for oppression, what if we label religion as the disease that it is and work with mental health professionals to develop a treatment for it?
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My home state. Most my family has moved out, what a shit hole.
Introduced but will be denied.
This is what they want more tolerance of, their bigotry. They're the ones dividing people and saying certain people shouldn't be treated with dignity. We need freedom from religion.
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Iowa is so close to flipping blue. This is not going to stop that. This will never pass, but we always knew the geriatric old bitches in the GOP were going to try and bring it here.
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