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submitted 1 week ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I'm sorry, so fucking angry. Students with sources that don't exist. Students with sources that exist but then the quotation doesn't exist.

I'm so fucking mad, because it's extra work for me (that I'm sure as hell not getting compensated for), and it also entirely defeats the purpose of the fucking class (it's writing/research, so like, engaging in a discipline and looking at what's been written before on your topic, etc.)

Kill me please. Comrades, I'm so tired. I just want to teach writing. I want to give students a way to exercise agency in the world -- to both see bad arguments and make good ones. They don't care. I'm so tired.

BTW, I took time to look up some of these sources my student used, couldn't find the quotes they quote, so told them the paper is an "A" if they can show me every quotation and failing otherwise. Does this seem like a fair policy (my thought is -- no matter the method, fabrication of evidence is justification for failing work)?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Kill me please. Comrades, I’m so tired. I just want to teach writing. I want to give students a way to exercise agency in the world – to both see bad arguments and make good ones. They don’t care. I’m so tired.

Why not teach them with tools to actually do this?

Enforce usage of something like Zotero and have them submit their Zotero library along with their paper. Makes it extremely easy to grade their sources as well.

Bibliography and source management can be better proved out now! If you constrict the assignments you can easily catch this stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Are students actually interested in the topics? Would they be doing anything different if the chatbots didn't exist?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

BTW, I took time to look up some of these sources my student used, couldn't find the quotes they quote, so told them the paper is an "A" if they can show me every quotation and failing otherwise. Does this seem like a fair policy (my thought is -- no matter the method, fabrication of evidence is justification for failing work)?

This is totally fair. They should already have those sources, and you should be making them use something like BibTeX to annotate them. The footnote/reference should include page numbers as well for their specific source/ISBN.

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