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[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

That exains a lot...

I do use AI to assist my programming, but I always take what it suggests as likely highly flawed. It frequently sends me in the right direction but almost never is fully correct. I read the answers carefully, throw away answers frequently, and never use a solution without modifying it in some way.

Also, it is terrible at handling more complex tasks. I just use it to help me construct small building blocks while I design and build the larger code.

If 30% of my code was written by AI it would be utter trash.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

AI is like a utils library: it can do well known boilerplate like sorting very well, but it’s not likely to actually write your code for you

AI is like fill down in spreadsheets: it can repeat a sequence with slight, obvious modifications but it’s not going to invent the data for you

AI is like static analysis for tests: it can roughly write test outlines, but they might not actually tell you anything about the state of the code under test

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Well said. Fully agreed.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

And presumably must developers at Microsoft take a similar approach (all the 'this explains everything' comments notwithstanding, so it's ridiculous that they're even tracking this as a metric. If 30% is AI generated, but the devs had to throw away 90% of it, that doesn't mean you could get rid of the developer, as they did a huge amount of work just checking the AI and potentially fixing stuff after it.

This is a metric that is misleading and will cause management to make the wrong decisions.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

we can tell

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

That’s like, not a good thing dude

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

I mean, autocorrect has written about 50 percent of this comment, but that doesn't mean my phone is writing it for me as much as it accelerates what I wanted to type in the first place.

Maybe that's how they got to a 30% estimate, cause ain't no other way that would have worked

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

I wonder how they measure that. Writing 30% of loc with AI seems like it will be terrible. Writing 30% of each loc with AI (i.e. autocomplete) seems feasible

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, what percentage of their code was previously written by Intellisense, because I suspect this is just copilot replacing intellisense/resharper plus a little more.

Copilot is great for:

a) replacing intellisense

b) minor refractors / and very short method writing

c) writing out boiler plate / test code

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Given they made a big hoohah a few years ago of getting rid of most of their QA—this in combination is a particularly bad look

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

I could believe this.

But how is their OS or any other product even close to functional at that point?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago
[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm using Windows daily.

I never said it was good, but it is functional.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I wonder if Microsoft has a model that learns from their own source code. I have tried having copilot write sql queries and they work (without modification) about 10% of the time

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago
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