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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago

"I'm whatever you aren't, you fucker" - water, to the substance you mixed with it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

What is the PH of the water? πŸ€”

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Oh! So that's why hot water burns you!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I know it's a joke and all, but it's not just the pH that makes something burn. A regular coke has a pH of around 2.5, for example.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Oh yeah? Then explain the sensation my sphincter feels upon butt-chugging three cans of coke, smart guy?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Little bits of it oscillate between hydronium and hydroxide so a little of both but not enough to make a difference.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

That's why the meme works. It's not because water autoionizes; it's because water is amphoteric, meaning it can act as either a BrΓΈnsted-Lowry acid or BL base depending on what what it's reacting with. Put water with ammonia, and water acts as an acid. Put water with acetic acid, and it acts as a base

Source: I teach college chemistry

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

Water is so cool. I like how the hydrophobic effects drives protein folding

[–] [email protected] 46 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Considering that water autoionizes, yes - it is both an acid and a base.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 hours ago

Inclusive or

[–] [email protected] 12 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Do you mean dihydrogen monoxide?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago

Pretty sure the OP meant hydrogen hydroxide.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Close, the standard IUPAC acid nomenclature would be "hydrohydroxic acid"

[–] [email protected] 22 points 14 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 14 hours ago

Ah yes amphoteric compounds

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago

It is the final frontier for either, your meme could have been so much more interesting. SAD.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Is this about the anomaly of water? I vaguely remember it from school

[–] [email protected] 14 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

No, this is about water being amphoteric compound meaning it behaves like a acid or base in different circumstances.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphoterism

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The water molecule is amphoteric in aqueous solution

A water molecule in aqueous solution. How can you tell it's being dissolved, or doing the dissolving?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

In high school I was told that one in avagadros number of water molecules splits into ions.
Is that right? It seems like a very small amount.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago

The dissociation constant of pure water at RT is 1x10^-14. This is many magnitudes more than just one per avogadros number. The "trick" is that any given molecule of water basically has that 1x10^-14 chance of being split or otherwise whole at any given time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Isn't water itself the pretty literal definition of 0 and it doesn't become one or the other until it's a solution with something else?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Water is the definition of 7.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago

Right, whatever the midpoint was. It's been a minute since my last chemistry class.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Also I’m pretty sure it’s only coincidentally 7. The calculation for pH isn’t based on any property of water.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Well, yes and no. The pH scale follows the hydrogen ion concentration, but specifically in aqueous media. The reason 7 is in the "middle" of the scale is because the natural dissociation of water sits at equilibrium at 10^-7 M H+ at 298K, IIRC. So perturbations naturally just displace that specific equilibrium, so it absolutely is normative to water.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

Interestingly enough, in other solvents a neutral pH is going to be a different value. IIRC, ammonia has an autoionization constant of 10^-30, so a neutral pH would be 15

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

By that definition, it can’t be exactly 7 then either. 10^-7 is just an estimate that we’ve agreed works fine. To my knowledge we haven’t really tried to improve this accuracy either?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago

The exact value varies with temperature, so it's a "good enough for the typical variations in temperature experienced by most aqueous solutions" estimate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

But is it +0 or -0? Neutral 0 is a lie, a measurement precision error.