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[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 minutes ago

"Why aren't people having kids?"

You know, aside from the world being on fire

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

Would that even pay to get the damn baby out of the hospital with insurance?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How about some of that socialism for the rest of us, and not just for breeders and soybean farmers?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Paying desperate people to produce corpo slaves is the furthest thing from socialism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I was being a bit facetious, but yeah. It's a pretty transparent ploy to get the birth rate up for as little money as possible. God forbid line doesn't go up always and forever, for all eternity.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I feel like that's more than $5k in the picture if they're all $20 bills.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I counted at least 50 stacks of $20 bills. Usually those stacks are 100 bills each, so over $100k in that pic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Those stacks aren't 100 dollars each that's for sure... More like 1000... I count at least 47 stacks... So let's round to 50...

Yeah that's 50k, which is definitely more than 5k

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

50k, [...] is definitely more than 5k

Source?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

$5,000 is a lot to those braindead morons who insist that "nobody wants to work" because they're still living comfortably off of a few $1,400 checks from half a decade ago...

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 days ago

Trade:

  • One person's wages

For:

  • Mortgage payments on a reasonably sized house
  • All bills
  • Food for two adults plus children
  • Entertainment

Then you might see more babies.

It was their greed that caused this.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This wouldn't even cover the hospital bill for most people lol.

And since hospitals know moms will be getting an extra 5k they will just add that into the cost somehow. /s

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 days ago

No need to put a /s there

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago

They sure do act like it's the 1930s alright...

[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 days ago (5 children)

5000$ is a lot. In Germany you get only 250€

well, that'sper month until they're 27 (as long as they're still in school/university)
plus free healthcare for mother and child
plus free daycare (depending on the state)
plus free schools and universities
...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

You got me in the first half.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (4 children)

We can all hope once the nazis leave, we too can be a civilized country.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You forgot maternity leave, something the 'mricans don't know, either.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Daycare is free where I live. It has to be. You can't expect people to pay for public services themselves; that's done with taxes. Corporations can't have customers or employees without people, and to get people to make more people, you have to make it easier for them. So what makes the most sense is cutting corporation porfits, which they don't need past a limit if they aren't investing in things that will benefit the public. So if a corporation isn't doing anything good, raise their taxes, use them to pay for daycare.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

60 years ago, wages were sufficient that one partner could be a homemaker even if the other only had a modest job, and they could afford a house and a car. We've only needed daycare as wages have stagnated against the cost of living.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I used to work as a teller at a bank. That bag of money is over 100k.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

What are the odds this is just Clinton's $5,000 Baby Bond, which was just giving them a fund at birth that they can cash out when they turn 18?

Except this time there's no guardrails and he can give it to all his cryptobro friends.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So conservatives want smaller government and less taxes but they're totally fine with their tax dollars being used to bribe women to give birth?

So they're stupid?

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It won't even cover the cost of giving birth. This is some real "how much could a banana cost" energy.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
  • A: This is the 'bad' kind of incentive. My mom worked in a hospital where people would come in pregnant, tons of neglected kids in tow, asking how much wellfare they could get for the next kid. Stuff like vouchers for school, care, healthcare and stuff doesn't incentive that.

  • B: It's hilariously inadequate and out-of-touch. $5K for childcare these days is a joke, even as a nice supplement.

...But that's the point. This is for show, like Trump's COVID checks with his signature on them. It's a brand to tell people "Hey! I'm Trump, and I'm helping you!" directly, a decent idea poorly implemented for PR purposes. It's also hilariously hypocritical, seeing how much 'blank check hand-outs' were criticized for decades.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We need to feed the ones we have now

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

that sounds a lot like communism to me. Damn Commies!

[–] [email protected] 229 points 3 days ago (9 children)

They chose to use a stock photo of a million dollars.

$5000 is only 2 and a half of those bundles of $20’s.

These people are trying to run propaganda for Trump, they can’t even keep their fascist bullshit straight.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

Ah yes, the conservatives plan to boost the birth rate has finally come to bear a rotten fruit:

  • People can't afford to have kids
  • People can't afford to feed kids
  • People can't afford to shelter kids
  • Therefore they won't have able bodied kids to keep the retirement and tax doles fulfilled
  • Nor will they have able bodied soldiers for war

But they're boosting the birth rate! (they aren't, actually, the rate will be even more in decline since the replacement rate in the US was held up by immigration like in most countries, and dumbfuck's actions have brought a stop to that).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That roughly the total on what was saved with doge.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I get your ribbing. But it's sad if people think they saved anything.

They literally mathematically added way more debt and cut gap.

Yeah we don't need govt workers..who contribute to tax base. Nah...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

So weird. These are the same imbiciles complaining about welfare babies.

[–] [email protected] 181 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

WE CAN'T DO THAT, IT'S LIKE PUNISHING THE MOMS WHO ALREADY HAD CHILDREN!!!! /s

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Why would this in particular be important to him? I would think he wouldn't care

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

if the population declines that should make real estate cheaper, and trump and his friends own a ton of real estate

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Guess, in no particular order, could be all these or none of these:

Someone told him about runaway population decline now being taken seriously in SK and Japan, we're not quite in the unrecoverable zone yet. https://gigazine.net/gsc_news/en/20250404-south-korea-is-over

5000/child is enough to get a rural wageslave to bolster their numbers and create the next generation of right-wing voters, but not enough to get left-wing educated people who can make reasonable guesses 9 months into the future.

5000 per child is cheap and it's enough to gain him popularity where he's just starting to weaken.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Evangelicals are a big part of his base and hate that there aren't more children in their sunday schools.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I wonder how they'll make it so it only applies to "Aryan" children. Hitler did the same shit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

They won't call them Aryan, but it will be the same shit. They'll call it something like Christian babies or some nonsense; then use that as a smokescreen for their racism.

[–] [email protected] 121 points 2 days ago (7 children)

That won’t even cover half of the (insured) cost of even the smoothest birth with my plan, and I work for a multi-billion dollar company.

This country, man. Having traveled abroad a bit, you start to realize how tunnel-visioned people stateside can get. Don’t even realize how much they/we are getting fleeced.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

They just cut head start, slashed medicade(51% of us babies are born on this program), no medicade no pediatric care for your baby either, cut hud, slashed the department of education, blocked student loan forgiveness, are dismantling the aca preventative care mandate, gutting worker protections, canceling child labor laws, laid off 275,000 workers and destroyed their livelihood and tanked the economy ……yea the birth rate is going to plummet. 5k lol doesn’t even cover a fraction of the utter devastation coming to American families from these moronic policies. Who in their right mind would want to bring a child into this racist sexist tech bro oligarchy?

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Wages have not kept up with productivity and GDP increases since the 1970s.

How about making single income middle class families possible again, so you can have one stay at home parent.

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