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[–] 191 points 1 year ago (24 children)

Is the proper response: Well shit.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    This is why I keep telling people we are fucked by focusing in increasing military power in europe even if it appears and is obviously needed. We are going to put all the power at the hands of insane lunatics ready to wage war and put people in ovens.

    It's happening in all countries in Europe. I think in mine we'll have elections next month or something like that and the extreme right is at 2nd or 3rd position ready to take first or will join hands with another to win. It was so close already last time. No matter how many crimes all their members do and show up in the news every week.

    It's what the people want. Most people everywhere are ok and want homicidal narcissist and sociopathic people in charge of them.

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    [–] 164 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Just looking at the people around me (mostly colleagues, I'm not friends with this kind of people) it's no surprise, when just about anything triggers them to vote AfD. Some actual examples:

    "We have a vegetarian day at the cafeteria now. Stupid Greens forcing me to not eat meat one day a week. I'm going to vote AfD next election."

    "They built a new bicycle lane on my way to work. Now I'm forced to stick to the speed limit because of all the bicyclists on MY road blocking me. It's a straight street, I should be able to go 80 even though it's inner city. I've always been going 80 there! Stupid Greens, I'm going to vote AfD next election."

    "Supplier X stopped issuing their bikini model calendar. Everything is forbidden nowadays! Noone ever cared for bikini model calenders, but the Greens want to forbid every little piece of fun. Stupid woke culture. I'm going to vote AfD."

    And let's not forget that one boss who told me that my life-threatening nut allergy was woke nonsense, because back in his day "everybody just ate what's on the table and noone died, but nowadays everybody has to feel special by making up things they won't eat."

    They just want to go back to 1950s culture, when gay people, trans people, allergies, ADHD, autism, veganism, climate change and anything other than straight white dudes and straight white housewives "didn't exist", because how dare the world be more complex than a Rosamunde Pilcher movie.

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I'm genuinely sorry your boss said that to you, but it sounds so fucking ridiculous I laughed. Jesus. Imagine being so stupid that someone might die.

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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    You know what the worst thing is? He wasn't the only one by far. Later at a different company another Teamleader told me I have to go out to eat with everybody. When I said the restaurant isn't save for me (lots of nuts on the menu), he just said I HAVE to come and that's what the Epipen is there for. I complained to HR and the HR lady asked why I don't just do a therapy against allergies. Told me about some esoteric bullshit that's supposed to cure all allergies and advised me to do that so I can better fit in with the company culture.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago

    Well, to bring some darker thoughts to the topic: Most fascist movements are also very, very inclined on their interpretation of darwinism, so... "weak" people dying off may for them be more a feature than a bug

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    [–] 110 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (26 children)

    Plus two percent, a difference of one percent to second place and an error margin of two point five percent. Congrats.

    Besides that, I really start to hate these reports. Weekly updates on the Sonntagsfrage are utterly lacking substance, fearmongering (to left leaning people) and reassurance (to AfD voters). Everything we do not need.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (23 children)

    Should the left not be worried?

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    [–] 74 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    In phone polls 4 years before the next election...

    Dont get me wrong, this sucks, but its not what the germans actually voted for.

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    [–] 59 points 1 year ago* (108 children)

    And stil the state refuses to ban them, refuses to arrest and sentence their leaders.

    It will be Weimar 2.0 with liberals being either too incompetent or too unwilling to stop fascism.

    Fascism is not stopped at the podium or in parliament. It is stopped with bullets and bombs. The longer you wait the more bullets and bombs it will take and the more lives it will cost. We need a new, this time thorough, denazification.

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    [–] 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    AfD is using fascist manipulation using propaganda (always putting immigrants and immigrant attacks in the spotlight) to gain power and discriminate immigrants even more, causing more retaliation which in turn makes people give the AfD even more power.

    In a tolerant society we should not be tolerant of such intolerance.

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    [–] 52 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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    [+] 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    There are multiple factors at play.

    • The government is incompetent and the Nazis are playing them like a fiddle by setting the public agenda aided by incompetent and complicit media. (That the Nazis' economic agenda, more money for the rich, isn't all that differnet from that of the established parties helps with this, because this renders them unable of countering the Nazis' lies about foreigners being to blame for the economic hardships of the masses without harming themselves)
    • The government consists of greedy, power hungry bastards who think they can use the Nazis to their advantage. (Some lie to themselves that they can steal votes from them by parroting their rhetoric, some use the spectre of cooperating with the Nazis to pressure other parties into cooperation with them instead)
    • The government consists of opportunistic cowards who are afraid of angering the Nazi voters and/or losing the court case for a ban of the Nazi party.
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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Both the US and Germany want to return to their fascist roots it seems

    Decades of capitalist decay and anti-communist propaganda will do that.

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    [–] 41 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    *In an opinion poll

    I mean lets not confuse an opinion poll with the truth. These things regularly get things a couple points off. In fact that’s the norm.

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    [–] 37 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    This is such a U.S. way of reporting things.

    74% of people don't want to be part of AfD.

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    [–] 33 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Take care of the nazi problem before they take care of you. You already know how that works. Stop allowing them to broadcast nazi propaganda as if it was news.

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    [+] 32 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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    [–] 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's similar in the UK currently. The UK's equivalent of AfD is Reform UK who are apparently the leading party in the polls (source):

    Reform UK in front on 25%, Labour on 23% and the Conservatives on 20%, with the Lib Dems on 16% and Greens on 10%

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    [–] 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    No surprise considering CDU/CSU fucking up shit for the broad population from day one. They even suggested a 1000€ deductible for the health insurance.

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    [–] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Everybody in Germany. Please talk to family members that you don't talk to about how this is dangerous to you. I know I have these in my family that I should invest in instead of always talking to the closest ones. Also make sure to beat them with genuine questions that break open their confidence in the reasoning with the socratic way (epistemology)

    1. What? Belief.
    2. Why? Reason
    3. How? Method for Proof

    Or

    1. Identify Persuasion
    2. Question "What is it actually", definition --In between ask for scale 1-10 how confident into the topic are you and importance queries
    3. Why do you believe that?
    4. How could one determine whether this is really true? --In between the scale and importance queries
    5. Best argument for and strongest argument against?
    6. Reflect, i.e. repeat what has been said in your own words eighthly

    It's not about being well versed in the topic of conversation But good questions

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    [–] 22 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Germany should have actually denazified instead of the joke they did. Also should have reunited the two germanys instead of what happened which was basically a west German conquest of east Germany contributing greatly to its impoverershment.

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    [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    For whatβ€˜s worth it doesnβ€˜t actually matter what potential voters would vote for each and every week when the next election is almost 4 years away. If anything, bold headlines like these only act as a self fulfilling prophecy and are blatant populism. Even a good government canβ€˜t be super popular every single week and the sooner people realize that, the better for democracy. Though I wonβ€˜t hold my breath.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    I read 50% of the men in Germany died in ww2 ….but yea cool Nazis what could go wrong.? Fuck around and find out I guess

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