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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As a crimson lining, I hope the United State's decay will teach Germany to destroy the AfD and all other right wingers. They are a poison to civilization.

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[–] [email protected] 158 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Just looking at the people around me (mostly colleagues, I'm not friends with this kind of people) it's no surprise, when just about anything triggers them to vote AfD. Some actual examples:

"We have a vegetarian day at the cafeteria now. Stupid Greens forcing me to not eat meat one day a week. I'm going to vote AfD next election."

"They built a new bicycle lane on my way to work. Now I'm forced to stick to the speed limit because of all the bicyclists on MY road blocking me. It's a straight street, I should be able to go 80 even though it's inner city. I've always been going 80 there! Stupid Greens, I'm going to vote AfD next election."

"Supplier X stopped issuing their bikini model calendar. Everything is forbidden nowadays! Noone ever cared for bikini model calenders, but the Greens want to forbid every little piece of fun. Stupid woke culture. I'm going to vote AfD."

And let's not forget that one boss who told me that my life-threatening nut allergy was woke nonsense, because back in his day "everybody just ate what's on the table and noone died, but nowadays everybody has to feel special by making up things they won't eat."

They just want to go back to 1950s culture, when gay people, trans people, allergies, ADHD, autism, veganism, climate change and anything other than straight white dudes and straight white housewives "didn't exist", because how dare the world be more complex than a Rosamunde Pilcher movie.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 days ago

“When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.” – Franklin Leonard

[–] [email protected] 66 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They want to return to 1950s, but they will return to 1930s. And not only in Germany. Stupid people have no clue what dictators always do.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I'm genuinely sorry your boss said that to you, but it sounds so fucking ridiculous I laughed. Jesus. Imagine being so stupid that someone might die.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 days ago (4 children)

You know what the worst thing is? He wasn't the only one by far. Later at a different company another Teamleader told me I have to go out to eat with everybody. When I said the restaurant isn't save for me (lots of nuts on the menu), he just said I HAVE to come and that's what the Epipen is there for. I complained to HR and the HR lady asked why I don't just do a therapy against allergies. Told me about some esoteric bullshit that's supposed to cure all allergies and advised me to do that so I can better fit in with the company culture.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

The German mindset to capitulate in the face of challenges that cant be solved by doing how things where allways done (since kohl).

By god, nobody wants things like wealth and inheritance taxes to be done like way back when (when they existed).

Ok, unfair the majority of Germans wants them, but this great democracy continuously produces Governments for and by the 1% irrespective of your vote.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Both the US and Germany want to return to their fascist roots it seems

Decades of capitalist decay and anti-communist propaganda will do that.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

Don’t forget about Russia. It is already there and leading in its effort to turn some countries into the same political system, making thereby these countries tries their puppets aka satellites.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Mass immigration into a housing shortage in order to push down wages, artificially invert the Phillips curve, and prop up housing prices will as well. I assume rising support for the afd is mostly the young.

https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/housing-index

https://recruitonomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/DE3-Net-migration-1024x565.png

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Germans literally have so many choices of political parties that they can actually elect, why do they have to go for the worst one AfD?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I want to give oen example of how people on the fence can up on the wrong side, radicalized if you will. For the record I’m as far left as I can get. I support a lof of humanitarian causes and respect the decisions of others, particularly in sexuality or individual personal definitions. Be what you want, do what you want, be good, be fair. It’s easier than being rotten.

I’m only a resident of Germany, so every two years I need to renew my residency card, the Awshfksoyngelelemdn, or whatever that alphabet soup is called. I began the process 3 months before I was set to expire (Nov 2024). Surely, that would be enough time to get shit done at a rathaus that refuses to do any of this online. Oof, so wrong. JULY was the first appointment they would give me. My residency expired in April. No problem, they said. I can still live here since I made the appointment, just don’t leave Germany. I must leave Germany as that’s my job and why they moved me here from the US years back.

I begged to understand why the wait times are so long and the answer I got, from the rathaus, was that refugees from Syria and Palestine have been given the opportunity to migrate to my town and their processing is a priority. The only way I can get around that, to get an earlier appointment, would be to stand in the line when they open at 7:30am-12:00pm, M-F. I went there at 7am and the line wrapped around the block. I asked the person in the front of the line what time they got there. 4am.

I came back another day, at 4am, and got shit done, but that’s a huge brick in the wall for people already pissed they have to share with the lesser fortunate. I sucked it up. I get what they’re doing. But when Germans see just how poorly this is all being managed, they start listening to the assholes that promise to fix that… at all costs.

It’s a fkn drag. I had much higher hopes for Germany when I moved here, but now I’m left wondering what my next move is going to be. I refuse to be ruled by racist idiots. It’s a big reason behind why I happily left the US. Only hope will be that everyone sees the US administration tripping over their own dicks and come to their senses, but I’ve really lost faith after the 2024 election cycle.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

It's mostly East Germany. Communism's fuckups in that area are still causing suffering today. I suppose West can be blamed for failing to integrate the east properly.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Unfortunately, that's not the only reason. We have 16 Bundesländer (states). 5 of them are in the East. But they have hardly more inhabitants than Bavaria. So a lot of us in the "Real Germany" (the western states) are voting those AHs too.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Put looting the east via Treuhand on that list...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Treuhand was a disgrace

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

its a few factors in play, one is the normalization of far-right policies by the other big parties (SPD, Greens, Union) and their inability to fix the damage caused by the financial crisis of 2008, the rise of anti-migrant beliefs in the german working class, and a few others

i think this video explains well the rise of the AfD in germany, at this point its only a matter of time until one or more parties decide to make a coalition with the AfD

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why hasn't the German government shut them down? I thought they had anti-fascist laws on their books.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

There are multiple factors at play.

  • The government is incompetent and the Nazis are playing them like a fiddle by setting the public agenda aided by incompetent and complicit media. (That the Nazis' economic agenda, more money for the rich, isn't all that differnet from that of the established parties helps with this, because this renders them unable of countering the Nazis' lies about foreigners being to blame for the economic hardships of the masses without harming themselves)
  • The government consists of greedy, power hungry bastards who think they can use the Nazis to their advantage. (Some lie to themselves that they can steal votes from them by parroting their rhetoric, some use the spectre of cooperating with the Nazis to pressure other parties into cooperation with them instead)
  • The government consists of opportunistic cowards who are afraid of angering the Nazi voters and/or losing the court case for a ban of the Nazi party.
[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No surprise considering CDU/CSU fucking up shit for the broad population from day one. They even suggested a 1000€ deductible for the health insurance.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Shit, in the US a $1000 deductible is what you get with pretty good insurance. My employer has a few plans and only one has a deductible below $1000.

Not to say that's good. Just pointing out that the US has succumbed to capitalism.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago (4 children)

This is such a U.S. way of reporting things.

74% of people don't want to be part of AfD.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 days ago (3 children)

One out every four people you meet being a literal nazi is tough tho

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago

I disagree. The nazis leading the polls is very disturbing.

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[–] [email protected] 189 points 4 days ago (24 children)

Is the proper response: Well shit.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It's similar in the UK currently. The UK's equivalent of AfD is Reform UK who are apparently the leading party in the polls (source):

Reform UK in front on 25%, Labour on 23% and the Conservatives on 20%, with the Lib Dems on 16% and Greens on 10%

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