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If you check out lemm.ee and lemmy.ml you can see that we have a bulk of ~100 hexbear upvoters on new pushing socialist content to the top of the feeds. By banning reactionaries, they lose this bulk of upvotes and comments that make their reactionary posts relevant (despite being controversial). I've even noticed a shift in instances not federated with hexbear posting more socialist leaning content due to this influence.

The tankie cabal stays winning

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This a good purge. Even a great purge.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

We have the best purges folks, everyone's saying it

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

they're gonna post this thread on lemmy and complain lol

worth noting that 1) socialism is good and should be encouraged, and 2) the stuff being pushed is not tankie stuff afaik, just basic socialist messaging

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  1. the stuff being pushed is not tankie stuff afaik, just basic socialist messaging

That doesn't matter.

It's like when freeze-gamer gate, in some ways the ideological start of the modern western fascist movement in its current form, got that mad that Anita Sarkeesian did a video series with some basic entry-level feminist analysis of bideo bames.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember that shit in real time

desolate

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Full confession: I was still lingering on 4ch!n at the time, primarily in the /tg/ board (that got sewage overflow from /pol/ regularly just like everywhere else on that site), and I saw the "we are not your private army" mantra instantly become "we are now your private army" once Eron Gjoni demanded one as a petty manchild revenge against Zoe Quinn. I was even there for when the name swapped from the misogynistic dog whistly "Five Guys" name to the more universally marketable "G!merGate" name, largely because of chud actor Adam Baldwin's suggestion. I was also there when they congratulated each other for coming up with the retcon of "it's actually about ethics in g!mes journalism" bullshit claim that was picked up and ran with for years as a smoke screen that was disgustingly effective at throwing naive liberals off the trail of misogynistic stalking.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's wild how self-conscious and deliberate it all was

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

4chan's edgelords took pride on not being anyone's private army then went all in on being a private army. They stood for nothing, not even standing for nothing. Fascist cowards.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

obsevable facts are anti-liberal angery

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Gotta give the people what they want.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

The system works only-good-gamer

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, how is hexbear banning libs making .ee's and .ml's feeds better?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

So the optimal way to game the algorithm is: have a socialist post, but with liberal comments. Then have hexbears dunk on the liberal comments in the socialist post to push the post further. But invisible liberal commenters (to us) will also increase engagement with their comments, these invisible liberals can be made by banning people or defederation.

By banning liberal posters, but not necessarily all commenters, we end up with more socialist posts on the main feed. Commenting in general also just increases the likelihood it hits the top of the page and we like commenting.

So far we have banned most of the big liberal posters, so this is causing socialist content to go higher up in the feed because we are indirectly flooding hexbears into a limited number of socialist threads, causing those few socialist threads to stay up for days at a time as activity continues to increase, thus increasing the amount and staying power of socialist content on lemmy in general very-smart

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would you think there's also a side effect to lemmygrads all feed?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Probably, but less due to less users. I also don't know how ban happy lemmygrad is

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

we've been banning anyone with the slightest liberalism since the site was made lol

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Pretty ban happy, as good tankies are.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is it possible for them to adjust the algorithm or is it baked into federation?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

They've been talking about new algorithms but afaik the people that worked on our old algorithms went AWOL

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it possible to learn this power ?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Not from a liberal. unlimited-power

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ban all the libs and this site will be empty

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

And /c/chapotraphouse3 thought is once again proven as the only path forward for leftism.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago