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[-] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago

Because over 50% of all games on steam are complete trash.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Seriously steam really needs to add a quality gate, the amount of garbage they have in the store is absurd and eventually it's not going to be worth the tiny fee they make from these games.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago

I dunno. I kind of remember when it was hard to get on steam. I wonder how many cool games we have now that we wouldn't have had of they had to go through some sort of arbitrary checkpoint. There always seemed to be some controversy over who and what got in.

Do those trash games even matter? I feel like I basically never see them unless I go looking for them specifically. Steam is far, far better at content discovery than Google Play is, despite both platforms having an abundance of shovelware.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

The content discovery on steam is being built up by massive community effort. It's maybe difficult to find the most egregious asset flips, but it's trivial to find tons of rpg maker games or similar, especially with the discovery queue.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

Nah. I understand the ask for a more curated store, but I don't want to make it harder for developers to get their content out there.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Adding minimal requirements isn't going to block any indie game the average gamer has heard of. In fact blocking asset flip games may actually help devs get more exposure in the new release lists. Heck just banning people that upload only asset flip garbage would probably be a big help.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

They do have a $100 submission fee, which the developer can recoup once they have $1k in sales. So that alone cuts out a lot of the nonsense since low selling games won't make enough to be worth the effort.

Maybe there's an argument that the fee should be higher, but at a certain point you're just making releasing a passion project impractical.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

I disagree. They're pretty good about not shoving shovelware in your face. I don't think games should be prevented from entry to the store just because they're perceived low quality. Where would you draw the line?

[-] [email protected] -5 points 2 years ago

A minimal level would be analyzing assets used and if more than say 90% are known free assets then block a game.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

What if you have a fun game idea but aren't big into graphics? You could just use a bunch of CC-BY licensed assets.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I feel you, I'm not denying a correlation between free assets and shovelware but why punish good quality games using free assets? Steam has a pretty generous (relatively speaking) refund policy letting you refund games you've bought in the past week that you have played for less than two hours. I feel like most games and especially shovelware games you can know if they're shit in under two hours. Better to let too many shitty games in and not risk keeping a good one out and let folks get refunds for shitty games than to potentially keep good games out because they don't meet some weird criteria they can't quite meet.

[-] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago

I am not surprised with the amount of Unity free assets games, now with AI-generated stories.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I think they removed Only Up! for that reason

[-] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago

Ah, so it's not just my own perception that was making me think that steam was filling up with crappy visual novel stuff.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago

If we try to exclude the super simple and cheap games by only looking at games priced at more than $5, the median is closer to $4000

just because a game is more than $5, doesn't mean it's not super simple, cheap shovelware.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Nobody is claiming that, the claim is merely that a lot of the games under $5 are shovelware. I'm sure you could take it a step further and try to remove shovelware, but that's gets really subjective really fast.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago

Honestly, that's okay. As long as indie devs have a place where they can sell and market their games fairly.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

There‘s no mention of ingame purchase revenue, so I assume they aren’t included?

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