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[+] 207 points 1 year ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (25 children)
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    [–] 85 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    If this works out it might be a nice place to migrate to away from my self-hosted e-mail provided they eventually let you bring your own domain. Just sucks that e-mail is essentially the most secure thing you need to have since compromising that can compromise every account attached to the e-mail. That’s a lot of trust you need to instill in your e-mail host.

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    [–] 66 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    I think it's incredibly important that people know, with absolute certainty, whether or not the new Mozilla/Firefox privacy policy in any way applies to / covers such a service.

    I'm not saying I know the answer- What I'm saying without a concrete, permanently applied answer it's not even considerable.

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  • [–] [S] 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    There is no email service that exists without a terms of use and privacy policy. I still feel everyone overreacted about Firefox. It's funnier how many people said they switched to Brave because of it and all the super shady stuff Brave has done.

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    [–] 28 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I was thinking ab this being april fool bcz it's posted on 1st...

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    [–] 27 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Thunderbird Pro will apparently be:

    This email thing plus Thunderbird Send (which is basically https://send.vis.ee/), Thunderbird Appointment - a scheduling tool and Thunderbird Assist, which is:

    "...at least for now, being cautiously labeled as “an experiment” that will allow users to take advantage of AI features within their email. However, the goal is to be lightweight enough that the language models can be run locally on a user’s PC in the interest of privacy. This service is being developed in partnership with Flower AI, which leverages Nvidia’s confidential compute to provide private remote processing in the event a user’s PC isn’t powerful enough. Sipes emphasizes that any remote processing features attached to Thunderbird Assist will always be optional, in the interest of ensuring complete user privacy."

    So AI shit that nobody asked for or wants.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This covers my thoughts about damn near every "helpful" feature this side of auto-complete email addresses.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    They said it will be opt-in and are trying to make it local-first. Their provider(?) apparently allows fallback to nvidia cloud compute when the hardware can't handle it.

    I'm not using AI to write my fucking emails, regardless. Just wanted to let people know.

    p.s. Sorry, I'm dumb, skipped over quote in parent comment. Point is, there's more to the service than optional AI bullshit, and you shouldn't have to disable it.

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    [+] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)
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    [–] 16 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Here's what I want.... I leave a computer on at home and it checks my email. I get emails from it at my phone. No setup. Make it work like Sinkthing used to work. I don't want cloud anything. Fucking backup nightmare where my shit ends up kidnapped by a company for monthly ransom.

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    [–] 16 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    I hope to god one day the developers at Mozilla finally get tired of this shit and fork everything under a new org.

    Fuck off with more services and give me my integrated FTP client back. No one who uses Mozilla software wants more cloud shit or online services from Mozilla.

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    [–] 15 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    I have a 20ish year old history in my Gmail account organized in labels and all that. I wonder if it will be viable to migrate?

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    [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    welp I signed up for the waitlist.

    I'll use it for a disposable email at first, and if it endures and does well I'll move my main shit off to it.

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  • [+] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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    If its not zero access its just more ameritech bullshit.

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  • [+] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)
  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Doesn't like 90% of Mozilla's funding come from Google? At least expanding their paid services could be seen as trying to turn that around.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    From my understanding thunbird is somewhat separated from this. From the article linked by OP it says:

    What’s crystal clear is that Thunderbird’s ever-increasing donation revenue (currently its sole source of income) is allowing for some explosive growth that’s long overdue. To add some context to this, Thunderbird received $2.8 million in donation revenue during 2021. Two years later, in 2023, it received $8.6 million in donations. I’m told that total financial contributions for 2024 were even higher, though the final amount hasn’t been officially released.

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