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[–] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago

Putin never intended to end that war without a complete surrender of Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

This was such a favorable deal for Russia thst if they did infact want peace it would have been an easy decision.

But they want to conquer Europe, so this doesn't work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

It wasn't even a final peace state, so it could easily have been pushed sideways in the future, and clearly the Americans wanted the win so badly that they would have let anything happen at the finish line.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Neither can Ukraine.

Bullies aren’t usually the best people to negotiate peace between a bully and a victim who is standing up to them.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Neither can Ukraine.

True, but Ukraine has played this game pretty well in my opinion. They keep negotiations going, speak nicely about the deal in public and at least in here media represents Ukraine as willing and open of discussion about whatever deal Trump suggests, no matter how bat shit crazy they are.

I mean, Ukraine isn't stupid enough to sign off all of their wealth to USA or surrender land without any significant gain. But they can now at least say that they're willing to discuss about the matter while Russia just bluntly rejects the proposals.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Thanks, you made me genuinely laugh, I needed that

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

Trump loses then.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Now Trump is gonna be really “pissed off”.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm kinda interested to see how he weasels out of this. He can't stand up to putin and he's sold himself as ending the war.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Biden is the new Obama excuse.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Thanks, O’Biden.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

He'll say it's all fake news and that he is simply going to make everyone agree to his most perfect, absolutely bestest deal ever!.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

He'll put some tariffs on Russian exports, this will show them!