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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cmon France surely you have better ideas for addressing corruption….

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I can't imagine Macron's party will enjoy much natural support, and without Le Pen to scare people into voting centrist, plus the left parties actually trying to be united in the last parliamentary elections, is 2027 looking good for Mélenchon?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

nah, they'll elect that young right wing fuck, who has more correct opinions about ukraine

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

When the nazi with the candidacy falls the nazi who follows picks up the candidacy and runs for office

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Macron? He's term limited.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

I'll share a little trivia fact.

In France, to be able to run for presidency, you have to collect 500 sponsorships from elected people (mayors, MPs, etc...). In the last presidential election, Le Pen had A LOT of difficulties getting those sponsorships and it was widely expected that she wouldn't have them before the deadline. So, François Bayrou, the centrist politician who is currently our prime minister appointed by Macron, decided to tell the elected officials from his party to sponsor her until she reaches the 500 threshold because "it wouldn't be democratic is that very popular far-right person wouldn't be able to run". It's thanks to him that she was able to run and reach the second round of the election, and give Macron an easy win because of the mass of people voting for him only to prevent fascism from winning.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if our centrists tried to save her ass again.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The left coalition (NFP) is already much more fragile than it was last year, especially given the Socialist Party's (PS) advances to the current government which especially angered Mélenchon's party (Mélenchon himself declared that the NFP was over when the PS initially started to attempt to court the government). But, on Mélenchon himself, the media demonisation campaign against him has been in full swing for years now and most French people are more scared of him and his party than of the far right purely because of that. In 2022 opinion polls for a Mélenchon-Le Pen round gave a victory to Le Pen, and same for Macron (with a larger margin); contrast this to 2017, when polls indicated that he would have won the second round had he passed the first round. And today his portrayal is even leagues worse than it was in 2022 (probably because the NUPES and then the NFP proved that he was still a relative danger to the neolibs); were he to get to the second round, I'd be incredibly surprised if he gets elected regardless of who he is facing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

LePen is further left than Macron at this point. Melenchon got smeared due to whole russiophobia and muh hamas thing has is making the rounds in Europe.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Le pen was

:kelly:

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

point-and-laugh-1point-and-laugh-2 lmaooooooooooo

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it's okay, corruption is encouraged and promoted in the West so.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I worry that all this will do in the long run is turn LePen into a martyr. Even when the left is totally out of the picture and the hogs trip over their own two feet, they always have a habit of drumming up a rallying cry against the left using themselves as a martyr.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Thing is, that will always happen. They'll portray themselves as victims whether they're prosecuted or not, they always have and they always will.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Its only for 5 years