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Probably the least interesting and least talked about Soviet leader (not counting the ones who were only there for <2 years), I don't really know much about him myself but I was feeling randomly curious so I skimmed NATOpedia to get a rough impression.

It seems like the Brezhnev-era would be the best time to be alive in the USSR, though that has to do more with external circumstances - he didn't have to deal with a lack of industrialization or invasions either during the revolution or WWII. However, economic growth was slow, despite the government investing in basic necessities and in agricultural production. In terms of technology, during this time, the USSR made the poor decision to use IBM's designs rather than investing in domestic computer development, which may have set them back and contributed to brain drain.

In terms of foreign policy, Brezhnev deviated from Khrushchev's focus on missiles by focusing more on strengthening conventional military forces, increasing spending eightfold to 12% of GNP by the time of his death. He continued the policy of detente, and (perhaps because of the military investment) negotiated and signed the SALT treaties, reducing the past nuclear brinkmanship. At the same time, he resumed support for the Vietnamese communists who Khrushchev had abandoned due to their refusal to negotiate a partition. However, he also made the disastrous decision to invade Afghanistan. He also sent troops into Czechoslovakia to suppress what I assume was a color revolution.

Did his uninspiring leadership and failure to address economic stagnation contribute to Gorbachev's dismantling of the USSR? Or perhaps that was already set in motion from Kruschev, (or caused afterward by Gorby), and the take is that he did a decent job steering the country through a relatively peaceful era, prioritizing human needs like housing over consumer goods?

For that matter, I'm kind of puzzled as to why his policies weren't more effective, I would expect providing things like housing would stimulate the economy by providing more consumer consumption (though perhaps the problem was supply not keeping up with demand?), and the USSR still had to rely on food imports despite pretty substantial investments in agriculture. For a critical take on him, I'm not sure what he should've done differently.

However, I don't really have a dog in the fight - if there is a fight. Do people have strong opinions about Brezhnev? I'm mostly just curious to hear people's perspectives.

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Well, you're right, he took power at an interesti-- damn, those are some eyebrows

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Soviet leaders, ranked by eyebrows:

  1. Brezhnev

That's it. That's the list.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

When I was in sixth grade we had to choose a biography from our library to do a book report on one of our heroes, but because I was wicked underground none of my heroes had biographies available in our middle school library so I got frustrated and just pulled a book at random and got this guy.

I don't remember a single thing that was actually in the book, just that Leonid Brezhnev was officially my hero in sixth grade.

edit: I thought his first name was Lenoid for well over two decades until checking just now because apparently I was terrible at reading back then.

second edit: I never really took time to think about what a middle-school teacher would think about a kid that says their hero is Leonid Brezhnev.

third edit: called him Lenoid again in the second edit

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I can't even imagine what I'd think if an adult communist told me their hero is Lenoid Brezhnev. Or even if they spelled it right. But a middle-schooler saying it would make me just think "how the fuck did they learn who Brezhnev is?"

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Wearing a red suit and seizing and redistributing Domino's pizza

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago
[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Still younger than Joe Biden was when he took office in 2021

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Looking at a list of senators by age really drives home how bad the US gerontocracy is. Like, Elizabeth Warren is one year younger than Brezhnev was at the time of his death, and she doesn't even register as being super old (at least to me), because the standard for "super old" has been distorted by actual fossils.

If Brezhnev was a present-day US senator at the time of his death, there would be 11 senators older than him, and that's honestly still pretty bad. Like if you're, idk, 70, it's probably time to pass the torch.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

anakin-padme-2 he earned those four orders of Lenin right?

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