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[–] 345 points 1 year ago (11 children)
  • [–] 169 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Well, not really. Twitter was his own private property that he bought with borrowed money secured against his Tesla shares. xAI on the other hand is financed by investors whose money he used to bail himself out at a price he made up himself since Twitter is no longer publicly traded. So this is, in my opinion, misuse of investor funds; the picture would be true if xAI used how own money to do this, but no.

    On one hand,I think this is serious fraud. On the other, my understanding for anyone investing into his companies is very limited, there are so many red flags on so many levels.

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    [–] 161 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    His juvenile enthusiasm for the letter X is so ten-year-old boy with sunglasses.

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  • [–] 172 points 1 year ago (10 children)
  • [–] 72 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    “X” is also 88 in ASCII. 88 is a Nazi reference to “heil hitler”. Big surprise.

    https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/88

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  • [+] 46 points 1 year ago (5 children)
  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Just confirming Xitter is pronounced “shitter” right?

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  • [–] 87 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    using AI hype to finance X loans?

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  • [–] 61 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Correct.

    It's actually a smart move.

    The dumb money are those pouring hundreds of billions into the AI hype. This is .com bubble on steroids.

    And sure, AI obviously is becoming an important market, but it will not be the current leaders who will dominate the tech. Like the internet, it's just too easy to catch up for competitors. Pouring $100B into AI today will only mean you lose out to the $1B startup in 2 years. The incumbents will go broke.

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  • [–] 67 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Is this so the loans secured with X stock can't be called in, forcing Elon to sell the collateral to pay back the loan?

    Sure seems like a bullshit business move to retain control of Tesla.

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    [–] 63 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    So the bullshit machinery is now AI driven bullshit machinery. What if AI finds it too vile and deletes itself.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    They doubtfully are giving it root access to self-delete.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I mean, with an Elon company who knows.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    You think Elon actually does anything besides sign the check?

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago

    So far I’ve seen/heard Elon:

    • Start shitty arguments
    • Be a fascist
    • Fire people they probably needed
    • Cut funding or drop useful projects
    • Spew senseless, poorly thought out catch phases
    • Censor people that were right but didn’t align with his narrative
    • Take credit for other people’s work
    • Pass the blame for failures

    Have yet to see him sign a check… it’s why they lost their boulder office, for instance.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    He’s an egotist and a man child, while also being the richest man in the world. All he has to do is say he wants something and people have to do it. He doesn’t have to “do” anything to be fully influencing what happens. Look at Twitter, look at the federal government. Sycophants surround these assholes and basically have to bend the knee and do what they say. When capital equals power, this is what happens. Just like when blood line meant power, the kings didn’t “do” anything. But the people who took their orders from them did.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So hell get taxed for exchange of speculative assets right?... Right?!

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Very likely this will turn out to be a broken and bugged version of skynet, trained on X toxicity and the mental aptitude of a 12 year old.

    It will proceed to try to enslave humanity, then try to kill us all but accidentally spend all its money on gender affirming care, then start to self hate and destroy itsself.

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    The combination values xAI at $80 billion and X at $33 billion ($45B less $12B debt)

    Lol, he actually think the value of Shitter is still $45B, as when he bought it. That's cute.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago

    Musk's slight of hand shell game to keep from losing his shirt if his Tesla stock keeps dropping and his X financiers come looking for money.

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    [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Are the authorities aware? It's very illegal to sell exctacy in the US.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I keep wondering what Elon wanted with all of our information from the government. He has who we are, our relatives, our net worth, where we live and have lived. Now he's probably going to feed it into his AI. Why though?

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    $33 billion, 3/4 what it was valued in 2022 when he bought it.

    Honestly I'm surprised it's still worth that much. (or rather, that's he's succeeded in claiming it's worth that much).

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  • [–] [S] 20 points 1 year ago

    You have to remember that he wasn't alone in purchasing twitter. He brought others along with him. Now that value of twitter has gone down the tube, I'm sure he's got a ton of unhappy investors on his hand screaming at every quarter's results. He's trying to recoup what they paid for by giving them shares in AI company. And in turn artificially raise the value of the AI company privately as well. It establishes a benchmark for AI company's valuation for later private investors into that company.

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    [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    This might have the opposite effect he wants, xAI investors no longer have a clean AI investment and are now linked to a failing social media platform.

    xAI is already losing bigtime vs other AI companies, this just makes it even less attractive.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I’m surprised the Twitter investors would approve this. Their worthless Twitter stock is now worthless xAI stock. How does that help them?

    I guess they’ll try to take xAI public with a massively overpriced IPO.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    I am more surprised xAI investors approved. Especially for such a high price.

    Twitter actually imo had (and still has) quite a bit of value, but that is only to further Elons ideological goals. As a business it is on a downward trend and was never a cash cow to begin with. Comparatively little room for speculation. It's a stagnating or declining business and doesn't generate large profits if any.

    xAI on the other hand is pretty much in the same spot as most other ai companies. It has yet to prove to be a highly profitable business, but there is plenty of room for speculation. So as long as the bubble doesn't burst, it has a high valuation.

    Which is all that would matter for any Twitter investor that wants to unload his shares. Although I doubt it would be via ipo, but rather in private funding rounds.

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    [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Phew. Just in time to avoid fraud charges on the loan.

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