I hated every episode this character was in. I was watching for space drama, and instead I get this weird writers pet obsession with lounge singing.
this post was submitted on 26 Mar 2025
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I'm not into musicals, I'll tolerate one musical number in a show I like, no sweat. Vic had 13 show stopping musical numbers in season 7!!!!!
It's like if Red Dwarf turned into 60% musical dance numbers! It is fun once... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jnTzBeQJag Can you tell this is a 9 season scifi show from the musical?
Replicate the veal.
I love that they let him develop beyond a scripted holonovel character. He knew he was a hologram, and they left the holodeck on for him so he could almost live a normal life. Don’t really know why, but that’s so freaking wholesome to me. Peak Trek.
It would make The Doc over at Voyager proud.
Meanwhile, Quark's out one holosuite for a chunk of potential customers, footing the bill for power consumption, and chipping away at his profits.
Please, he was stealing that power in the first place - and Sisko knew the whole time.
Good memory. I vaguely recall some sort of extortion/bargaining scene.
He wasent stealing it, the federation kindly didn't charge rent for utilities or for repairs. Sisko used that as leverage on him in "the bar association."
Quark is summoned to the captain's office, where Sisko tells him that he wants the strike ended and things back to normal, so Quark is to sit down with Rom and hammer out an agreement by the end of the day. Quark says that Sisko doesn't understand; merely talking to a union violates the core aspects of Ferengi culture. Sisko says that he may not understand Ferengi culture, but he does know who holds the lease on Quark's – the Federation. The Federation has been extremely lenient, not charging Quark for rent, repairs, or the large amount of power the bar requires but that ends today. Sisko then reads off a list of things Quark owes; five years back rent, maintenance requests and the drain on the station's power. After some quick calculations, Sisko asks Quark if he knows how much latinum that is. Quark pales, says that it is a lot, and agrees to talk to his brother.
Was just about to post the text from the episode before your edit. So it was a bargained extortion.
edit: here it is anyway
SISKO: Maybe I don't know much about Ferengi culture but I do know who holds the lease on your bar.
QUARK: The Federation. And I couldn't ask for better landlords.
SISKO: That's because we don't ask you to pay your rent, or to reimburse us for your maintenance repairs, or the drain on the station's power supply.
QUARK: You're a very generous people.
SISKO: Until today. Let's see. Five years of back rent, plus power consumption, plus the repairs. Do you know how much latinum that is?
QUARK: A lot.
I mean, in a situation where one party is being extremely generous and the other is operating in bad faith, it’s an appropriate response.
Or, through the Federation lens: Sisko simply met Quark on his cultural level.
I’m sure Quark has organized some deal
They get a dedicated holosuite at below hourly cost, Quark never has to find customers to rent it out to, has 24 hour usage, and doesn’t have to send someone to clean it.
I took it more like a screen saver in that they let Vic’s program run when nothing else was in use.
Suspending the program is just making Vic take a nap.
NOG: I want to thank you for all that you did for me.
VIC: That's not necessary. You did something for me too. You gave me a chance to see what it's like to have a life.
NOG: Well you're going to have that chance again. I've made arrangements with my uncle Quark to keep your programme running twenty six hours a day from now on.
VIC: What?
NOG: It's my gift to you.
How much did Quark charge NOG for that?
Never disclosed, but we know Nog's a resourceful kid. Might have invested or gambled with the money made from that coming of age ceremony.
Three words:
Self
Sealing
Stembolts
James Darren was great, but Sinatra Jr was their first choice:
Now Frank Sinatra, Jr. is a big fan of Star Trek, so Ron Surma got in touch with him and we sent him the scene. When I spoke to Frank, he thought it was very funny, but he said that he did not want to play a singer, he wanted to play an alien. And so it did not happen.
They could have at least thrown Frank Sinatra Jr a different alien role. Missed opportunity.
Alien heckler who complains that his own father would make a better Frank Sinatra.
Should have offered a double role as a waiter at Quark’s who disses lounge singers.
He plays Alien Fat Elvis in a competing club
My favorite Vic scene is when he sings “The Best is Yet to Come” with Sisko, Avery Brooks is such a great singer.
However, the scene is contrasted with the fact that in the scene previous O’Brian was strip searched by a hologram guard. Julian asks him what happened to which O’Brian retorts “I don’t want to talk about it”. The rest of the crew join in the musical ensemble but I can’t imagine O’Brian was really in the singing mood after that ordeal.
Huh. Meanwhile I always found that scene awkward, brooks trying his best to sound melodic but contrasted by an actual singer.
Whaaat? His voice is awesome. They just sing in two very different styles.
I think his voice is great but he's not a singer, as such. There's a lot of acting in singing and some vice versa but the great thing about that scene is it's his voice and it's great. That carries the scene. And I dont' know if the cast hadn't heard him sing before then or what but their expressions of "holy shit!" are great.
Case in point: when the person I was watching with heard him start singing, they said, "Woah!"
Hey, don't hate. Twenty slips of gold-pressed latinum is twenty slips of gold-pressed latinum. Quark doesn't give away holosuite time for free. That payment has to come from somewhere.
♫ We know of an ancient radiation,
That haunts dismembered constellations,
A faintly glimmering subspace station,
While Frank Sinatra sings Stormy Weather,
The Xindi and Tholian get along together,
Cobwebs fall on an old captain’s record~ ♫
You know Riker does an insufferably good classical Cake cover of Short Skant & A Long (Captain’s) Jacket.
Vic isn't the wish version of Sinatra, Sinatra is the wish version of Vic!
Heyyy pally, right back atcha!
Regrets? I've had a few....
You have Frank Sinatra at your house‽
Just Vic Fontaine on an old VHS tape
Daft punk is playing at my house, at my house.
How was he human in the mirror universe?
Either Vic's appearance was based on a real person, like the EMH series, or Mirror!Vic was an android. We never actually got a decent look at his wound after he was shot.
Smoldering, possibly charred flesh, but uncertain. I just chalk it up to "Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations."
My theory has always been that Vic was actually the "puppy" computer virus from s01e16, growing up and trying to get more interaction with people. That's how he could transfer himself between holodecks and access station systems. In the mirror universe the virus infected an android body and not a holodeck program.