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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago (23 children)

As a current landlord about to extend a lease at exactly the same terms for 3rd year in a row (and I fix everything within 24 hours) - I agree with this too.

It's ridiculous that my largest store of value is a speculation bubble and a piece of paper with my name on it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Will be in your situation in due time.

Inheritance will give my siblings and I property.

My siblings and I have already talked about it. We're looking to see if we can transfer it to Community Land Trusts or sell.

Here's a link to the Canada wide association: https://www.communityland.ca/

Here's the one specific to Ottawa: https://www.oclt.ca/

There are others in other cities.

Some (like Ottawa) don't take individual units yet but we'll prob sell and then invest in them or if they choose to buy individual units, sell to them.

If you can find one. Sell to a community land trust or housing co-op. You can get your capital back and the people living there can manage and own their own homes.

You can then reinvest the capital into other projects: https://tapestrycapital.ca/

Or in renewable energy: https://www.orec.ca/

Or credit union class B shares.

They try to aim for 4-5% ROI so above inflation. Unfortunately, most people want the ubsustainable returns in real estate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ooo! Those are good alternatives. I'll give em a read through. It might solve something on my end.

Say I want to move cities for a new job. There are at least two uncertainties I need to resolve -

  1. will this job work out for the long term?
  2. will I like this city at all (or know where to buy)?

This prevents me from wanting to buy immediately.

What prevents me from selling immediately is losing a stable footing I can plan around if the new city doesn't work out. More broadly for everyone in this situation though is the cash sits.

I will need to buy immediately or park it in some investment that keeps pace/liquid enough to convert back to a house, which requires additional knowledge/research.

So to be risk averse, sitting on the house is generally a safe default...

But thank you for starting me on considering this as an options and what parameters need to be met to make sense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Glad to help.

For now. I'd at least put it in your will and talk to the beneficiaries of your estate about it.

I have family members who are more into the whole Real Estate "game" and would rather the property. Putting it in your will prevent any shenanigans.

The whole "society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they will never know" and all that.

You're right about moving cities part of it. Ideally if there are enough community land trusts and housing cooperatives you won't face such issues as the distinction between "renting" and "owning" will disappear. And your investments will be divorced from land and onto actual projects.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ban corporations from owning residential properties. Houses shouldn't be held like stocks or cryptocurrency. Only allow individuals to own a maximum of two residential properties, which must be occupied by the owner at least 5 months out of the year or be surrendered to the government, to be sold to an individual who will live in the house.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

In the Netherlands we have wooncorporatie, which are non-profit home rental companies. I think it's a reasonable model, although the center right government tried to get rid of them for years. (Now we have a coalition of far-right parties in power, and they don't even have anything like a consistent ideology much less policy so who can know what the future brings?)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

There are literally amendments to the Constitution preventing this from happening have you all lost your mind!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Why do we have to pretend the constitution matters when our enemies don't?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They're just kids living out a simplistic power fantasy. "If I were king of the world, I'd solve this huge, intractable problem with a simple order". Like Mao ordering all the sparrows to be killed. Hopefully, once they experience the world a little, they realize that big problems are big because they're difficult and complicated to solve.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Housing is more complex and the proposed solution may not work, but there are some problems that could be solved by someone with absolute power pretty easily. For example, if we shipped health insurance CEOs off to El Salvadorian labor camps instead of innocent immigrants, people would stop having their claims denied and the concept of a deductible would go the way of the dodo.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Do you think you provide housing? Here's a list of common signs:

If someone stole all your tools, you'd kill them, and you don't think that's weird.

Unhealthy relationship with caffeine (bonus points for other substances too)

At least one fucked-up bone or joint

There's some Liquid Nails or silicone caulk stuck in your favorite work shirt

Your hearing isn't as good as it used to be

Regular porta-shitter use

If two or more of these fit your lifestyle, you may be a provider of housing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Hey, I just rented my property for exactly what the council rates and body corporate expenses are. A $160 pw home. Not even a mark up to cover repairs etc, because capital gain will more than cover that. I did it because I hate what is happening in housing currently, especially for young buyers. Now my new tenant wants to delay moving in for 3 weeks, and not pay any rent during that time. /sigh....what scum I am....

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

try 100%. housing should be covered by taxes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Meh, they would redefine vacant and claim "their" property isn't affected by the law.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Right and that is also a solvable problem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Based on what evidence do you think that laws apply to people with money. Laws were made to protect commerce, and by extension, those with the money. There will always be a loophole for them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It is a position not to be controverted that the earth, in its natural uncultivated state was, and ever would have continued to be, the common property of the human race. In that state every man would have been born to property. He would have been a joint life proprietor with the rest in the property of the soil, and in all its natural productions, vegetable and animal. But the earth in its natural state, as before said, is capable of supporting but a small number of inhabitants compared with what it is capable of doing in a cultivated state.

(...)

Cultivation is at least one of the greatest natural improvements ever made by human invention. It has given to created earth a tenfold value. But the landed monopoly that began with it has produced the greatest evil. It has dispossessed more than half the inhabitants of every nation of their natural inheritance, without providing for them, as ought to have been done, an indemnification for that loss, and has thereby created a species of poverty and wretchedness that did not exist before. In advocating the case of the persons thus dispossessed, it is a right, and not a charity, that I am pleading for.

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