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How to Avoid US-Based Digital Services—and Why You Might Want To (www.wired.com)
submitted 3 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

This is a weird line in the sand. Instead of focusing on where something is build, shouldnywe focus on technical details and software licenses?

For example, Signal is based in the US, but the app is structured in such a way that they have minimal information: just the creation time and last login, associated with a phone number. That has even been tried in court, and that's literally all they could provide. Telegram is worse technically speaking, but it's headquartered outside the US.

Don't evaluate software based on where it's developed, evaluate it based on what is does and can do in the future.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Just pirate everything. Problem solved.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'd pirate a data center if I could

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Id download the whole damn thing, along with a car.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

Good one! 🤣🤣🤣

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago (27 children)

Not all online services are streaming media services. There are lots of other US services to get away from.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The only US service I ever used nowadays is YouTube with extreme ad block ofc

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

that cannot be true.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago

when shit really hits the fan europe will lose access to some if not all us based services.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

Is this coming from Wired magazine, aka the press organ of silicon valley? Big wows.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago

https://archive.is/oRUQV

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Qwant is owned by Huawei. Leaving Trumplandia for Xi…

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Qwant is owned by Huawei.

No it isn't.

Why are you lying like this? What's the goal?

Qwant is based in Paris and its owners are:

  • Jean-Manuel Rozan

  • Éric Léandri

  • Patrick Constant

  • Caisse des dépôts et consignations (basically a public investment institution owned by the French government)

  • Groupe Axel Springer (an online media company based in Germany)

So again: why did you lie? What's the goal here?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

That last bullet point is indeed a negative for Qwant.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This source backs me up, not you.

Under the terms of the contract, the Chinese group has the possibility of converting its obligations within two years in order to become a minority shareholder in the French group - in the order of 5 to 7.5% of the capital, according to the documents obtained by Politico. But such a scenario, which would allow Huawei to influence Qwant’s strategy, can only be achieved if the Chinese group obtains prior among other conditions. According to Politico, this mechanism reassured the Deposit Fund. Qwant, on the other hand, assures that Huawei is not trying to get into its capital.

So, a 2021 source says Huawei, in accordance with agreements, could possibly take a 5 to 7.5% stake as long as they did it within two years. It then states that this isn't something Huawei actually intends to go ahead with.

It's been well over two years, Huawei indeed didn't take a stake in Qwant, and Qwant is still entirely French-German.

With that above information, you went online and lied, saying Huawei owns Qwant. They do not. You lied. And now you're doubling down on it.

Bit suspicious, by the way, that you're a new account with only 3 comments, all of which spreading misinformation.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can you back that claim up at all? Qwant is not owned by Huawei. They don't even hold shares as far as I can tell.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

8 million convertible bounds in a company that hasn’t turned a profit. Sure no risk at all.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Xi isn't going to take me away to special education camps. They can have my data.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

We are literally watching ICE kidnap people in the USA with legal resident status and deporting them or transferring them to detention centers, and somehow people are downvoting you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The Uyghurs disagree.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

that is true until trump starts sending political prisoners to China.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pretty sure they already have detention centers wjere they send their "unwanted".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah, but if you're in the US, you'd be more concerned about the US authorities.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Literally

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

You do sound special

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yet...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Why would he start? Meanwhile Trump is already an active threat today.

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