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[–] lseufer@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago* (16 children) Qwant is owned by Huawei. Leaving Trumplandia for Xi… permalink fedilink source hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (3 children) Qwant is owned by Huawei. No it isn't. Why are you lying like this? What's the goal? Qwant is based in Paris and its owners are: Jean-Manuel Rozan Éric Léandri Patrick Constant Caisse des dépôts et consignations (basically a public investment institution owned by the French government) Groupe Axel Springer (an online media company based in Germany) So again: why did you lie? What's the goal here? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago That last bullet point is indeed a negative for Qwant. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lseufer@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-eco/le-geant-chinois-huawei-va-financer-le-moteur-de-recherche-qwant-pour-8-millions-d-euros-20210614 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* This source backs me up, not you. Under the terms of the contract, the Chinese group has the possibility of converting its obligations within two years in order to become a minority shareholder in the French group - in the order of 5 to 7.5% of the capital, according to the documents obtained by Politico. But such a scenario, which would allow Huawei to influence Qwant’s strategy, can only be achieved if the Chinese group obtains prior among other conditions. According to Politico, this mechanism reassured the Deposit Fund. Qwant, on the other hand, assures that Huawei is not trying to get into its capital. So, a 2021 source says Huawei, in accordance with agreements, could possibly take a 5 to 7.5% stake as long as they did it within two years. It then states that this isn't something Huawei actually intends to go ahead with. It's been well over two years, Huawei indeed didn't take a stake in Qwant, and Qwant is still entirely French-German. With that above information, you went online and lied, saying Huawei owns Qwant. They do not. You lied. And now you're doubling down on it. Bit suspicious, by the way, that you're a new account with only 3 comments, all of which spreading misinformation. permalink fedilink source parent [–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can you back that claim up at all? Qwant is not owned by Huawei. They don't even hold shares as far as I can tell. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lseufer@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago 8 million convertible bounds in a company that hasn’t turned a profit. Sure no risk at all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chakan2@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (9 children) Xi isn't going to take me away to special education camps. They can have my data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago We are literally watching ICE kidnap people in the USA with legal resident status and deporting them or transferring them to detention centers, and somehow people are downvoting you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RoosterBoy@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* The Uyghurs disagree. permalink fedilink source parent [+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] OccasionallyFeralya@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Literally permalink fedilink source parent [–] Goretantath@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Pretty sure they already have detention centers wjere they send their "unwanted". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Yeah, but if you're in the US, you'd be more concerned about the US authorities. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago You do sound special permalink fedilink source parent [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yet... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago Why would he start? Meanwhile Trump is already an active threat today. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (3 children) Qwant is owned by Huawei. No it isn't. Why are you lying like this? What's the goal? Qwant is based in Paris and its owners are: Jean-Manuel Rozan Éric Léandri Patrick Constant Caisse des dépôts et consignations (basically a public investment institution owned by the French government) Groupe Axel Springer (an online media company based in Germany) So again: why did you lie? What's the goal here? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago That last bullet point is indeed a negative for Qwant. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lseufer@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-eco/le-geant-chinois-huawei-va-financer-le-moteur-de-recherche-qwant-pour-8-millions-d-euros-20210614 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* This source backs me up, not you. Under the terms of the contract, the Chinese group has the possibility of converting its obligations within two years in order to become a minority shareholder in the French group - in the order of 5 to 7.5% of the capital, according to the documents obtained by Politico. But such a scenario, which would allow Huawei to influence Qwant’s strategy, can only be achieved if the Chinese group obtains prior among other conditions. According to Politico, this mechanism reassured the Deposit Fund. Qwant, on the other hand, assures that Huawei is not trying to get into its capital. So, a 2021 source says Huawei, in accordance with agreements, could possibly take a 5 to 7.5% stake as long as they did it within two years. It then states that this isn't something Huawei actually intends to go ahead with. It's been well over two years, Huawei indeed didn't take a stake in Qwant, and Qwant is still entirely French-German. With that above information, you went online and lied, saying Huawei owns Qwant. They do not. You lied. And now you're doubling down on it. Bit suspicious, by the way, that you're a new account with only 3 comments, all of which spreading misinformation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago That last bullet point is indeed a negative for Qwant. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lseufer@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-eco/le-geant-chinois-huawei-va-financer-le-moteur-de-recherche-qwant-pour-8-millions-d-euros-20210614 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* This source backs me up, not you. Under the terms of the contract, the Chinese group has the possibility of converting its obligations within two years in order to become a minority shareholder in the French group - in the order of 5 to 7.5% of the capital, according to the documents obtained by Politico. But such a scenario, which would allow Huawei to influence Qwant’s strategy, can only be achieved if the Chinese group obtains prior among other conditions. According to Politico, this mechanism reassured the Deposit Fund. Qwant, on the other hand, assures that Huawei is not trying to get into its capital. So, a 2021 source says Huawei, in accordance with agreements, could possibly take a 5 to 7.5% stake as long as they did it within two years. It then states that this isn't something Huawei actually intends to go ahead with. It's been well over two years, Huawei indeed didn't take a stake in Qwant, and Qwant is still entirely French-German. With that above information, you went online and lied, saying Huawei owns Qwant. They do not. You lied. And now you're doubling down on it. Bit suspicious, by the way, that you're a new account with only 3 comments, all of which spreading misinformation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* This source backs me up, not you. Under the terms of the contract, the Chinese group has the possibility of converting its obligations within two years in order to become a minority shareholder in the French group - in the order of 5 to 7.5% of the capital, according to the documents obtained by Politico. But such a scenario, which would allow Huawei to influence Qwant’s strategy, can only be achieved if the Chinese group obtains prior among other conditions. According to Politico, this mechanism reassured the Deposit Fund. Qwant, on the other hand, assures that Huawei is not trying to get into its capital. So, a 2021 source says Huawei, in accordance with agreements, could possibly take a 5 to 7.5% stake as long as they did it within two years. It then states that this isn't something Huawei actually intends to go ahead with. It's been well over two years, Huawei indeed didn't take a stake in Qwant, and Qwant is still entirely French-German. With that above information, you went online and lied, saying Huawei owns Qwant. They do not. You lied. And now you're doubling down on it. Bit suspicious, by the way, that you're a new account with only 3 comments, all of which spreading misinformation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Can you back that claim up at all? Qwant is not owned by Huawei. They don't even hold shares as far as I can tell. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lseufer@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago 8 million convertible bounds in a company that hasn’t turned a profit. Sure no risk at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lseufer@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago 8 million convertible bounds in a company that hasn’t turned a profit. Sure no risk at all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chakan2@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (9 children) Xi isn't going to take me away to special education camps. They can have my data. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago We are literally watching ICE kidnap people in the USA with legal resident status and deporting them or transferring them to detention centers, and somehow people are downvoting you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RoosterBoy@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* The Uyghurs disagree. permalink fedilink source parent [+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] OccasionallyFeralya@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Literally permalink fedilink source parent [–] Goretantath@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Pretty sure they already have detention centers wjere they send their "unwanted". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Yeah, but if you're in the US, you'd be more concerned about the US authorities. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago You do sound special permalink fedilink source parent [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yet... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago Why would he start? Meanwhile Trump is already an active threat today. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago We are literally watching ICE kidnap people in the USA with legal resident status and deporting them or transferring them to detention centers, and somehow people are downvoting you. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Goretantath@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Pretty sure they already have detention centers wjere they send their "unwanted". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Yeah, but if you're in the US, you'd be more concerned about the US authorities. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Yeah, but if you're in the US, you'd be more concerned about the US authorities. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago You do sound special permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yet... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago Why would he start? Meanwhile Trump is already an active threat today. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago Why would he start? Meanwhile Trump is already an active threat today. permalink fedilink source parent