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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hey look, the media blaming drugs for stupid people doing stupid shit.

This isn't the ketamine. He would probably be even worse without it.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They gave my cat ket before they euthanized her. She looked absolutely blissful, but certainly in no fit state to run a government.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I mean this in the nicest way, but your cat would make an excellent replacement for the current governor.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Hell I'd make a dead cat leader of DOGE over the current one

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

LENNY'S CAT! LENNY'S CAT! LENNY'S CAT!

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ketamine, like any drug, should be thoroughly researched. Whether good, bad, or mixed, the knowledge would be useful.

In any case, I think that being wealthy is the most dangerous drug of all. It frees you from the consequences of your actions. Being invulnerable from society, prevents you from knowing what it means to be harmed. It is why rich folks tend to be assholes, since they don't understand the reality of being human. They are more akin to space aliens or dragons.

...at this point, excessive wealth is something I believe to be a drug that harms society, not individuals.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's an insane amount of research into ketamine. That's why they literally use it regularly to sedate children.

It's very safe and well tolerated. This shit isn't about ketamine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

There's a big difference between anesthetic use and recreational abuse tho.

There isn't much study on recreational abuse and the few that exist are very damning, from neurotoxicity to straight up brain lacerations. Of course this needs more studying but theres very real chance K abuse has real damage.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ketamine, like any drug, should be thoroughly researched.

Hey man, go easy on him. He's researching it as hard as he can, while balancing other responsibilities, like running DOGE. Have you ever tried working for the federal government with a cranium full of ketamine? It's not as easy as he makes it look.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I mean.. we all have that friend who does mushrooms or drops acid and thinks they are the savior of the human race.

The only difference is that the next day they have to go work their shift at IHOP rather than waking up and being the richest person in the world.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Ketamine is the least of this dude's problems.

[–] [email protected] 243 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I think it's fair to say that ketamine may be affecting his faculties, but this is dipping it's toe into "the drugs make him do it!" sanewashing.

Drugs don't make people assholes. They were assholes before they took the drugs, and the drugs emphasise what an asshole they are.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (6 children)

As a very wise person once told me about acid, it doesn't change you as much as it makes you more like yourself.

Put an A-hole down the K-hole and guess what comes out the other end?

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 days ago (3 children)

As the saying goes “sober thoughts, drunk words”

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago (12 children)

People have been known to change personalities and become like that after serious brain injuries. Not uncommon for such people to become right wing.

I don't know much about ketamines effect on the brain..

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

And assholes with too much money are a special brand of assholes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Imagine coming out of a K hole and finding that you’ve caused the most powerful nation in the world to collapse.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Along with those unsettling side effects, the psychopharmacology researcher and her team also found that regular users scored very high on delusional thinking scales and seemed to be convinced that they were receiving secret messages sent to them alone

Sounds like him but honestly money and power is probably enough to explain his delusional behaviour

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

People are too hard on drugs. Drugs are great. the ketamine might be helping for all we know. It's money and feeling unwanted as a child that has caused this man's brain damage.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You can see the insecure little boy in him so much. Him and Joe Rogan. They are so obviously doing everything in themselves to have some confidence but not even millions and billions of dollars can fill that hole of abandonment.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Little boy feels unwanted.

Little boy commits to getting rich and successful so he'll feel wanted.

Little boy achieves success.

Little boy finds out the money prevents him from forming any meaningful relationships.

The world burns.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Right, no one does the amount of steroids Joe Rogan does without having a severe case of body dysmorphia or something similar

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah sad to see so many people here make the same error that the US (and most of the world) did regarding cannabis for 80+ years.

Stop falling for propaganda like this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

The dose makes the poison. I have seen people go from helped by prescription adderall to completely paranoid and detached from reality at high doses.

It can be both bad for him at his dosages and good for others, and I think most people here have understood that, though maybe I’m being optimistic

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

A fragile ego and sense of entitlement could also explain a lot of it. This comes from experience and, thankfully, at least some people can get better.

[–] [email protected] 120 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I'm gonna tap the sign.

(The Drug User's Bible, by Dominic Milton Trott)

Do not let Elon Musk own ketamine. It is a valid depression treatment.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 days ago (14 children)

Well...it's found to effective at halting the immediate effects of severe depression. In other words, it's just enough to stop someone from going suicidal or worse. It has NOT been shown to be a good candidate for long-term use in treating general depression in anyone, in fact, there's a larger nunber of studies correlating Ketamine abuse with mental defect than showing it useful in a medical capacity.

There's a huge difference between those two things. Here's a study that only looked at previous records (no conflict of interest in new study targets) : https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8972190/

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Add Kanye West to that list as well

[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Growing up the son of a wealthy emerald-mine owning dysfunctional family in apartheid South Africa explains a lot of his behavior too.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Excuses at this point

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