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[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

This but unironically.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As someone that literally spent 25 years driving a manual, including various stints in racing. Manuals have seen their day.

It used to be if you wanted better mileage, you drove a manual. If you wanted to be faster on the track, drive a manual (caveat there is drag racing.)

Today? The computer is just better at controlling a transmission. I drive a Camry Hybrid now and not having shifts is REALLY weird and the drone getting up to highway speeds is annoying, but I do like the 45mpg. Not to mention, when I sat down to learn how the Toyota Hybrid Drive works... It's a pretty clever system.

There are a lot of times that nostalgia gets the better of me and I wish I had a car with a manual. My oldest is possibly joining a skating team that is a 2 hour drive away. It's tempting to let him use my car and then buy an older manual for myself as a toy. I'd love to get a hold of another mid-80's Corolla GT-S. I autocrossed one back in the late 80's early 90's. It still remains my favorite car I've ever owned.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Same here . Obviously it does feel more like actually driving a car instead of a toy but to be honest, electric is here and they don't shift. Today when i feel like doing some driving for the sake of driving- a motorcycle is much more fun anyway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We should also get rid of starter motors. Who needs them? We can just hand crank the car to start it, like real men did back in the day.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I love when it backfires and accidentally breaks your arm! So manly!!!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

What country is this car from?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

She'll go 300 hectares on a single tank of kerosene.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

During Covid, I put together a budget sim rig. Played a looooot of VR Assetto Corsa. Learned to drive a manual, then went and did a manual Porsche race car on a track in Vegas. It worked! It was one of the best things I've ever done. I was flushed when I got out of the car. It was overwhelming.

Anyway, I was ready. So I took the natural next step. I bought a manual 1984 Ford F-250 with a ~7L (7.4L?) engine, dual gas tanks that held more fuel than I could ever afford. It was a beast. Long story short, I was not ready. Oh, did I mention I lived in mountainous Utah at the base of said mountains at the time?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah pre year ~2000 cars are a bit different lmao

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

This is a tip for people that don't drive automatic transmission, if you ever try it, put it in R and really floor it. The R stands for racing mode!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hate the knob. I can't decide if that or the Nissan "orb of motion" as Garbage Time put it is my least favourite. I miss my manual car, but I'm on the electric train now, as computery as it gets.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ours has a stick configuration. Fellow Frank supporter

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Funnily enough, I have a few friends who really think like this. Personally, having driven manual for 20 years before I switched to electric a year ago, I don't see it, apart from a certain comfortable nostalgia. Automatic is better in cities and it's a lot easier for kids to learn. Handbrake starts on hills? What a weird thing to be nostalgic about.

I suspect it's just these people think handling the gearstick makes them special. It's the one thing they can be smug about,completely discounting the fact that any old idiot can learn to drive manual if they just practice a bit. Reminds me of my grandpa who insisted that it's better to chop down trees with an axe and a handsaw, instead of using these modern chainsaws. He was a stubborn old dude.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Good insight, it really is basically “if you get rid of this, then I won’t be good at anything”

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Manuals are infinitely more fun to drive and I like to manipulate the performance characteristics of the car myself but they're probably going extinct to EV which is fine.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

my uncle learned driving with a manual and he said it scared the shit out of him because anytime he went up a hill hed start going backwards trying to get to the next gear 😭

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Manual is hell for people with back or knee issues.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Clutches are for the weak. Grind em till you find em.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Electric cars have no transmission. If you buy electric, there are no stick shifts because electric cars only have one gear (with very few exceptions, and even then you'd just have 2 gears.)

Idk how this plays into the joke, but it's a neat fact.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Technically they have at least 2 "gears", forward and reverse. But does it really count if all you do is shout at the angry pixies to run the other way?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I bought a new 2024 vehicle last year with a manual transmission. This will be the last manual I ever own. I don’t expect them to be around by the next time I get a car.

I’ve enjoyed driving stick since I was a teenager. It still makes my commute more enjoyable. A good rev matched downshift still makes me smile. I’m going to miss the experience when it finally comes to an end, but hopefully I can keep it up another 20 years.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (4 children)

You're like a solid 20 years behind here bud, they don't even offer manual transmissions on high end luxury cars. People don't buy them. I get it, I miss having manual cars, and it's not as hard as people always complained, I could teach a dog to drive manual over the phone, it's really not hard.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (15 children)

You'll never catch me doing something that can be automated away, this includes shifting gears in a car.

But a car is just a tool to me, like a cordless drill, so i'm sure I don't get it.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 3 days ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 101 points 3 days ago

Biblically accurate transmission

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

Wife owns an automatic, it's fantastic for when you're stuck in traffic, but GOD does it make shitty decisions. Of course it cannot anticipate whether or not you're going to be climbing a slope, so it goes up a gear, but then when it struggles to climb it has to immediately go back down a gear, but you lost all speed already and it's raining and you can't pick up traction again so you slide back down the slope and try again. It's also only really effective for the most tranquil driving, and it has a huuuuuuge inertia when accelerating, like a good half second of not obeying your pedaling, which is 1.frustrating and 2.dangerous in situations where you have to get out of the way urgently. So, would only recommend for old people or people frequently stuck in traffic. The technology has ways to go still

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Check your owners manual to see if you have a button to disable "overdrive", it's for adverse conditions such as uphill or downhill, off-road or rainy, etc. It prevents the shifting up too early and gives each gear more range to operate in. By default it's on because it saves fuel, and they make the button hard to find sometimes.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (18 children)

Big oil forced that shit onto you instead of going the far superior EV route from the beginning. Now EVs are finally taking over and I'm happy my kids never have to get fuel grease on their hands and suffer those nasty fumes at gas stations. Shifters were needed for an inferior technology to work. I liked it as an experience when I learned to drive. But cars are mostly transport due to failure of better public transport infrastructure. I don't care whether they're fun. I drive for fun on the Xbox or maybe in a GoKart every few years.

Oh that felt good to rant.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (22 children)

It’s been difficult to find manual transmisssions for a couple of decades here in the US. That ship has sailed.

While most of my life I vowed my kids would learn manual, I gave up on that idea because

  • manual transmission cars are rare and disappearing
  • automatics now are more fuel efficient
  • CVT are reliable and even more efficient
  • EVs don’t shift

My kids started driving in a world of automatics and will soon be in a world with no transmissions

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I still hate to this day one of my parents cars. The gear shift is on the side of the radio and the radio controls(what isn’t touch screen) are underneath.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 3 days ago (36 children)

As a classically trained driver I’ve found automatics make people drive worse because they have to think less. And they already barely think.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Stupid is as stupid does. A significant portion of trucking accidents involve the truck driver missing a cue because they were mid gear change.

While it is good to have a person learn to drive stick, it is really hard to get people to learn how to drive if they have zero interest in actually learning how to be a driver, no matter what transmission.

I personally like dual clutch transmissions and daily'ed a car to 175k miles with one, yet I went out of my way to find a manual version of my current car.

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