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[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

These people in their minds still fully living in the 20th century. Korea war this, Vietnam war that.

Nato has definitely committed heinous crimes. No one should deny that. But Nato in 2025 is not an American propaganda tool anymore. It's pretty much run by Europeans now.

Maybe they should take a look at, you know, current wars and conflicts around the world. But then they would have to acknowledge Russia's and China's imperialistic doings in the Global South.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

More than anything the trade embargo with DPRK needs to be lifted, same with Cuba

Forgetting the DPRK for a sec, the Cuba comment is right, right? AFAICT the main reason the US embargoes Cuba is because Florida is a swing state and lifting the embargo would piss off the Cuban-American voters who hate Castro with a burning passion.

In other words, shitty politics.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Florida is a swing state and lifting the embargo would piss off the Cuban-American voters who hate Castro with a burning passion.

Quick, somebody tell Drump that Castro is a HUGE fan of his! LMAO

But yea, they are right about Cuba, but mixing in agreeable facts with the misinfo/propaganda is intentional

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

i saw that thread earlier and genuinely thought the comments were just shitposting until i realized they all think they're actually informing people.

especially that garbage graphic posted my benito dessalini himself

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Criticizing Comrade Trump is now forbidden

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, yes, get NATO out of the way so China can form a military "defense" pact with other countries to protect it's interests in the power vacuum

Oh, wait, these are the same people who believe one country invading, and annexing territory from, another isn't imperialism, it is self defense because the west, even when the leader has been publicly discussing reclaiming their empire for decades now. These are the people who ignore how some countries have been claiming ownership of seas, and harassing the independent countries within them, because that is also just self defense, because the west. It can't possibly be them exercising expansionist desires, while claiming it is defense, you know, like how some other countries, of a certain defense pact, do. They certainly won't go full steam ahead once NATO is no longer in these areas, constraining them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

[Putin] has been publicly discussing reclaiming [the Soviet] empire for decades now.

I wasn't aware of this. Can you provide me with some examples?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

He seems to go between implying the original empire, and the USSR, however, the last one I saw was an address to a russian program to support young entrepreneurs, where he spends part of his speech discussing the expansion russia. He then tells the story of how peter the great annexed part of sweden. He claimed this wasn't an invasion of sweden because, at one time, russia claimed that land, so it was merely restoration. It is stuff like this he has been doing. You can find him bringing up this sort of thing in public addresses of all sorts, where he just slips in how making whatever about russia better by restoring the empire, and using these types of stories to justify it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Thanks for the reply.

The author's thesis is based on the speech that Putin gave upon assuming office in 1999-08-16, specifically the "zones of interest" phrase. Here it is with a couple paragraphs of context:

Context

The task of our foreign policy is to raise Russia's prestige.

Without that, we will be unable to either protect our citizens or help our exporters.

So we will continue to take the most active part possible in peacekeeping operations and in the major international and regional organizations.

Russia has been a great power for centuries, and remains so.

It has always had and still has legitimate zones of interest abroad in both the former Soviet lands and elsewhere.

We should not drop our guard in this respect, neither should we allow our opinion to be ignored.

Russia has no need to be ashamed of its interests.

It should not descend to that.

source

IMO, hearing a head-of-state swear to pursue their nation's national interests is pretty banal stuff. Russia was part of an active interstate alliance in 1999.

Has he said anything more "mask off" in the past 26 years?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Yes, he invaded and otherwise manipulated a bunch of countries worldwide.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Has he said anything more "mask off" in the past 26 years?

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181

TL;DR: Ukraine is Russia because history.

Though looking at your username I'm certain you don't give a shit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

How very juche of them. Can anyone remind me who started the Korean War?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lol do you want the historical facts or the .ml Tankie version?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

I prefer reading fiction myself. That's partly why I keep upvoting posts in this community.