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[–] [email protected] -4 points 12 minutes ago (1 children)

I don’t want no CCP controlled shit in my country. It’s enough that the Liberal party are acting like communist dictators as it is. I will always buy a Tesla. The hell with your sissy feelings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 minutes ago

The sissy feeelings in question: love for democracy.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, more Chinese infrastructure, that phones home and can be turned off remotely, with a switch, is definitely what the West need.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

and thats any worse than US tech because?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 minutes ago* (last edited 10 minutes ago)

The US doesn’t throw your sorry ass in prison for calling the leader a bad name. Pull your gigantic head out from within your deep cavity.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 20 minutes ago

Oh no, I mentioned China, so .ml weirdoes come knocking

Who said it was worse? Why did you imply that?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago

Why just a tariff? Just ban all Tesla vehicle imports and all sales of new Tesla vehicles. For owners of existing vehicles they should be offered a generous buyback and equally generous loan terms for a new or used car. That would encourage most Tesla owners to trade-in their vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Or just fix public transit for fucks sake. Evs are a distraction from the problemm

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 minutes ago

You must be that depressed looking man at the back of the bus when I drive by one in my Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 44 minutes ago* (last edited 43 minutes ago) (1 children)

101% this. Driving my mates and I yesterday on a completely packed 4 lane highway. 90% of cars were a single driver, no pasangers.

Even if we exclude tradie vans and utes who ill assume are at least transporting tools and gear, if every one of those vehicles carried 1 other person or chose to bike instead ( Christchurch, New Zealeand, we have good biking infrastructure also a bike path that follows the length of the highway) or even take the bus (public transport is pretty good) we would see an instant 50% reduction in traffic over night.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 35 minutes ago

Did traffic get worse in nz in the past few years? When i was there there was absolutely no traffic but to be fair i mainly went to the rural parts so maybe i just missed it. Even so the larger cities could be connected by public transit, especially when theres a 10 hour drive from one city to another one, a train there would be much more comfortable. Its basically a straight line as well so the train could go pretty fast withoutnany big sacrifices. Idk tho i only spent 3 weeks there, not an expert by any means.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 hours ago

The benefit of a tarrif on Tesla vs opening the market to China is that we can easily undo it if there is a US coup, Trump gets medicated, gets burned, whatever. There's still the potential that this is a temporary situation, not the new reality. If we open up to a third party, we can't put the genie back in the bottle.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

I was thinking the same thing. I always thought one of the main reasons for the 100% tariffs was to be in line with what the US wanted. But with things being the way they are, I think we should open the door for Chinese EVs. If it benefits Canada, we should do it. I'm not well versed on the Chinese EVs, but from some of the documentaries I've seen, the quality is comparable to the US models, if not better, due to the features that they pack into their base models. I know that there are concerns about eavesdropping and data collection, but isn't that a risk with the US too? And especially the way the US is now, I'd trust them even less. Because it goes beyond the data collection, it goes to their intention of annexation.

I'd rather we open the door to Chinese EVs, or any other competitors, just so our trade is more diversified. (I'm not familiar with the infrastructure investments that would be required for Chinese EVs, or policy adjustments, I just think it's something that should be seriously explored and implemented, just so we're not so dependent on the US alone).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

Why not do both? I like public transit idea but does not work for smaller/rural communities

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 hours ago

Someone's doing the happy hunny dance....

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

That feels like "robbing Peter to pay Paul". We don't want to be dependent on either nationalist autocracy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Mercedes make pretty good EVs but dunno if they're in Canada. They're definitely cheaper in Europe though.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

I dont think there is a single privacy friendly EV on the market.

If a Canadian company could build and export an EV that wasn't loaded with invasive sensors and where the data recording and uploading was opt-in (or non existent), loads of US Americans and Europeans would import them from Canada.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I'm pretty sure the VW E-Up is (can be made) privacy friendly (the datamodule that sends the data to VW and into your account can be replaced with an OVMS datamodule)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I think you can expand that to all cars, not just EVs.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 hours ago

I think we should build them ourselves.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 hours ago (9 children)

Canada has the same incentive to not open the door to Chinese EVs that the US does.

Why would they shoot themselves in the face just to splash some blood on someone else?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Canada doesn't have the incentives that the Americans have at all. Correct me if I'm wrong. America's incentive is to protect its own EV industry, Canada doesn't have an EV industry of its own.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Get them to help build factories in Canada

[–] [email protected] 63 points 11 hours ago (16 children)

I have a better alternative: invest in viable alternatives to driving! expand protected bike lanes, build the damn high speed rail, more trains, trams and bus lines. One more asphalt lane for cars wont solve traffic problems :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

Our newly-elected Premier has unfortunately doubled down on giving cars priority with the mandated removal of bike lanes and building new highways (413), even though their own data says that Toronto with be just as congested a few years after building them.

Oh I forgot to mention the tunnel under the 401, which is a massive boondoggle waiting to happen

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Along with more work from home jobs?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

Just make it so that commutes count as clocked-in time, and let the market sort it out.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

Walkable cities. Biking infrastructure. Reliable public transit.

Regularless of of what'd going on in the world right now, these would make our cities far better.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

Love this idea; however, bringing Chinese cars is like applying pressure to the wound... fixing public transportation is the long term healing process.

1 - They are not mutually exclusive, bring the Chinese cars now while starting on the long term public transportation projects

2 - The Federal gov can act on the Chinese cars now... public transportation is 100% Provincial purview so an entirely different team needs to address this other priority

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