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[–] [email protected] 118 points 2 weeks ago

These assholes need to be far more familiar with urgent fear.

[–] [email protected] 87 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Prediction: first big company to offer 32-hour work week at no loss of pay, with choice of remote or hybrid, will hoover up all the Grade-A talent.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They'll never justify it to the shareholders. This is just unrealized value.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So a private company without shareholders will be the first, then.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A company being private doesn't mean there's no shareholders, it just means the shares aren't publicly traded.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Correct. But being a private company without shareholders, as I said, means that there are no shareholders. :-)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

That just makes the owner the sole shareholder 🤷‍♂️ They might be among the hardest to convince.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

My CEO is starting to get ideas. I work at a startup, and recently they have been floating 60-80 hour work weeks. So far it has been an idle threat and is really just their hail Mary play, but big players doing this shit is really worrying as far as normalizing it.

I'm more productive than ever, and the punishment seems to be piling on even more work in order to chase those short term profits.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago

Unionise your workplace and force your bosses to respect your time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I mean if they increase my pay by 50-100%, I'll "work" 60-80 hours. By which I mean continue to work 20 hours and pretend to work the rest of the time I say I'm working, while collecting the extra money.

By the time they figure it out I'll probably still come out ahead.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

How many people are you?

[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

CEOs and executives would be the easiest to replace.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not to mention best bang bang for the buck.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Woosh.

Don't worry, Luigi understood

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

It wasn't a woosh! It was a bang bang bang up job!

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ahh yes, another asshole who works maybe 10 hours per week wants the pleb to work around the clock to make him richer...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

You wouldn't get it. These geniuses have highly efficient brains that are working every waking hour.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago

eat the rich

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Another great example of why engineers should not be in charge of people, nor people's wellbeing.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Who else is an example of this? This seems like something that comes commonly from the MBAs that cosplay as techies. And while Brin is one of the few tech leaders who actually has any claim to technical brilliance, he has now been in management far longer than he ever was in a technical role.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Generally the actual term used is technocrat.

People opposed to them would generally say they get focused on the end result and neglect the human aspect.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

This doesn't seem different than any other business dude exhorting his employees to do an extra grind for "the company mission" when it's really just for his ego and profits. Grind culture exists in law, finance, sales, etc. Anywhere that employees are not paid overtime for overworking (mostly, hourly plus commission jobs might have a low base rate and not care about the extra overtime expense).

Techies are particularly vulnerable to it as they're usually younger salaried employees who aren't as apt about demanding a personal upside if they're asked to sacrifice their personal lives for the company's benefit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Where did you hear that? Technocracy means rule by specialists and technical experts. For example, in a technocracy, career bureaucrats aren’t in charge of ecological policy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You can have a technocrat without a technocracy. There is no reason a technocrat cannot be a career burocrate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Is this guy called a technocrat because he actually wants his engineers to rule?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

this almost always an MBA, buzzword(you arnt working , if you are not busy)

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

That's quite sweeping.

People like Brin may be engineers - or have roots as engineers - but the heads of these tech companies are first and foremost entitled 1%-ers, who function as businessmen more than anything else.

The problem really is not that he's an engineer - the problem is that he's an asshole.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

i mean kinda generalist there? are you using any piece of hardware that has an engineer as a ceo? (e.g nvidia, amd qualcomm all have ex engineers as CEOs)

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago

Sergey should fuck right off!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

Sergey should Google my balls

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

Fucker needs a visit from Luigi.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I say work 60 hours a week to build an AI to replace the CEO.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

If elon is any example , being a ceo is a very low effort role, in that he's able to be the ceo of multiple companies, while playing video games all day and posting stupid tweets, and more recently, run a government department, all at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

They wouldn't need all 60 hours

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Another guy who hates his family so much that he'd rather spend 60 hours at work per week to stay away from them.

Classy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Oh no, he doesn't work, he just dictates what other people should work

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

I guess I'm glad I'm not super rich. Seems like when you get super rich you become a complete idiot.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

Says the guy a picture of himself could replace.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

My odds of outliving all of these assholes keep looking better and better, as they pursue their every sociopathuc impulse.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

I wish him a happy brain aneurism.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Rokos basilisk lite

[–] sommerset 4 points 2 weeks ago

What a cunt

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The 40 hour workweek is WOKE!!! It came from that commie FDR's "NEW STEAL" and I hate the color green!!!!

Damn liberals forget that the company is FAMILY!! 60 hour weeks just means more time with the people who care the most bigly!!!

/s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I might be wrong, but he doesn't look like someone who's been leading by example and working 60 hours/week himself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Just build one to replace him and call it good

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

That's kinda what happened in IT industry...