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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Karoushi is the new cool trend. Everyone is doing it.

[–] [email protected] 134 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

AGI is not in reach. We need to stop this incessant parroting from tech companies. LLMs are stochastic parrots. They guess the next word. There's no thought or reasoning. They don't understand inputs. They mimic human speech. They're not presenting anything meaningful.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I feel like I have found a lone voice of sanity in a jungle of brainless fanpeople sucking up the snake oil and pretending LLMs are AI. A simple control loop is closer to AI than a stochastic parrot, as you correctly put it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

pretending LLMs are AI

LLMs are AI. There’s a common misconception about what ‘AI’ actually means. Many people equate AI with the advanced, human-like intelligence depicted in sci-fi - like HAL 9000, JARVIS, Ava, Mother, Samantha, Skynet, and GERTY. These systems represent a type of AI called AGI (Artificial General Intelligence), designed to perform a wide range of tasks and demonstrate a form of general intelligence similar to humans.

However, AI itself doesn't imply general intelligence. Even something as simple as a chess-playing robot qualifies as AI. Although it’s a narrow AI, excelling in just one task, it still fits within the AI category. So, AI is a very broad term that covers everything from highly specialized systems to the type of advanced, adaptable intelligence that we often imagine. Think of it like the term ‘plants,’ which includes everything from grass to towering redwoods - each different, but all fitting within the same category.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Here we go... Fanperson explaining the world to the dumb lost sheep. Thank you so much for stepping down from your high horse to try and educate a simple person. /s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

How's insulting the people respectfully disagreeing with you working out so far? That ad-hominem was completely uncalled for.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

If a basic chess engine is AI then bubble sort is too

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's not. Bubble sort is a purely deterministic algorithm with no learning or intelligence involved.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Many chess engines run on deterministic algos as well

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

There are at least three of us.

I am worried what happens when the bubble finally pops because shit always rolls downhill and most of us are at the bottom of the hill.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 12 hours ago

Not sure if we need that particular bubble to pop for us to be drowned in a sea of shit, looking at the state of the world right now :( But silicon valley seems to be at the core of this clusterfuck, as if all the villains form there or flock there...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

That undersells them slightly.

LLMs are powerful tools for generating text that looks like something. Need something rephrased in a different style? They're good at that. Need something summarized? They can do that, too. Need a question answered? No can do.

LLMs can't generate answers to questions. They can only generate text that looks like answers to questions. Often enough that answer is even correct, though usually suboptimal. But they'll also happily generate complete bullshit answers and to them there's no difference to a real answer.

They're text transformers marketed as general problem solvers because a) the market for text transformers isn't that big and b) general problem solvers is what AI researchers are always trying to create. They have their use cases but certainly not ones worth the kind of spending they get.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

They warn us about AGI while simultaneously attempting to sell it to us.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

Black PR is PR too, it's like warnings about weapons of the future and combat robots and antiutopia for many people worked as an ad, and they want that exact future.

I think it's the same with AGI. People think Skynet is cool and want Skynet, because they think it's the future.

Except it's a bit less, like real fascism doesn't look similar to Warhammer, just to a criminal district ruled by a gang, scaled for a country.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago

That might speed it up, but that certainly is not a prerequisite.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago

I bet it would happen faster if this guy was fired.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

I guess we don't need it then.

[–] [email protected] 109 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

"Work 50% longer weeks so you can make something that'll both make me richer AND cost you your jobs!" is not the motivational speech he thinks it is.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I don't even know what AGI is, and I read the headline as "rich disconnected from reality asshole".

Turns out I was right.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

For how many years? Cuz y'all ain't anywhere near AGI. You can't even get generative AI to not suck compared to your competition in that market (which is a pretty low bar) lol

[–] [email protected] 239 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

That's why I bake my cake at 2608°C for ~1,8 minutes, it just works™

[–] [email protected] 133 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Project Manager here, and where I’m from it’s common knowledge that 9 women can have a baby in a month .

[–] [email protected] 43 points 18 hours ago

Or!—hear me out—one woman whose 8 co-gestators were just laid off by someone who doesn’t understand what their job was

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago

You can’t produce a baby in one month by getting nine women pregnant.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Let's work 20 hour weeks then. Who wants AGI other than war pigs and billionaires?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago

I mean, we could get a rogue agi take over the world. It might not even be worse lmao

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 13 hours ago

With all the rounds of layoffs they've had, their remaining employees would need to be quite stupid to give a shit what this disloyal piece trash says.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

If it's in reach working 60 hour weeks, it's also in reach working 40 hour weeks, it will just take 1/3rd longer. ;)

[–] [email protected] 30 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Let's be real, it'll probably happen faster on 40 hour work weeks than 60.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

lots of evidence starting to point to it'd be quicker in 32 hour weeks than 40

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 147 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

lol, because if they work 40-hour weeks they might create it a couple of weeks later

[–] [email protected] 71 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

Or, worse, they might actually have to hire enough people to actually do the job. Why hire 100 people with good work life balance, when you can hire 60 people that aren't allowed to have lives or families.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

If it can be reached in 60 hour work weeks it can be reached in 40, but nah mfs should rush to get themselves replaced

[–] [email protected] 18 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

If it can be reached in 60 hour work weeks, then it can be reached in 40 hour work weeks be hiring a second person.

If management isn't willing to put the effort in of hiring the required staff, why would I want to work the job of 2 people for 1 persons pay?

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 16 hours ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 56 points 18 hours ago

This is almost too depressing to be funny.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 17 hours ago (8 children)

Or, y'know, he could hire 50% more programmers / contractors, instead of overworking his current staff

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 13 points 16 hours ago

So he's saying it's not in reach then.

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