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[–] 366 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Join our Discord server

crying in decentralization efforts

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  • [–] 201 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Hell, even worse, crying in the lost information. Discord is a black hole where community knowledge goes to die.

    It's the worst.

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  • [–] 124 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    The Discord-based "support" makes it a "meh." The main devs alt-right BS makes it a "hard pass."

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  • [–] 73 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Lemmy was created by a tankie, many of whose opinions I abhor.

    As long as it's FOSS and doesn't inherently promote their beliefs, I will use the software.

    I agree it's not great and I'd prefer if it weren't made by imbeciles

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  • [–] 41 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Tankies are annoying, but they're not on the same level as fascists.

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    I donate to Ladybird and Servo, and I hope they succeed. We need serious competition and a check on Mozilla (not to mention Chrome and Safari).

    That said, I'm sad that neither Ladybird or Servo are licensed under strong copyleft licenses. We need user-oriented browsers now more than ever, and strong copyleft enables that. I worry that, even if these engines are successful, they will be co-opted by proprietary browsers and eventually superseded by them.

    This happened before - both Chrome and Safari ultimately derive from KHTML, Konqueror's browser engine. If KHTML had been licnesed under the GPL instead of the LGPL, Chrome and Safari (and not just their engines) may have been free software today. Or, at the very least, it would have been much more difficult for Apple and Google to get started.

    That said, I wish Ladybird the best. There donation = no influence policy is excellent, and I really, really hope they can stick to it in the long term.

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    [–] 71 points 2 years ago

    Good, the world is in dire need of competition in this arena.

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  • [–] 64 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    To go along with the alt right stuff, one of their major donors is Shopify.

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  • [–] 65 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Looks like a confused Swedish dude that when questioned about his use of English pronouns defaults to not wanting to get political. Is there more besides a misguided decision to avoid relevant political topics?

    I think we should chastise people that insist on not getting political, but not necessarily boycott everything they do. Or at least we should apply the same moral demands to Mozilla, Apple, Microsoft or Google when choosing which browsers to support. Which of them is the least bad?

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    There is nothing political about acknowledging peoples' existence.

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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Alright, read up on it a bit more. Sadly the language choices (C++ now, maybe Swift later) rubs me the wrong way for something that needs to be incredibly secure against attacks. I really really support additional browser engines, but likely not this one.

    Thus I think Servo is a better choice for those looking to contribute. IMHO.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago

    Quite happy to see Servo coming along again. I am still excited for Ladybird and it seems more likely to deliver a truly viable browser sooner.

    I am not a Swift dev but I think it has decent memory safety as well. I think it is one of the reasons Ladybird is moving to it. They evaluated Rust and decided it lacked the OOP features they needed.

    The C++ that Ladybird writes is also very good. They have their own standard library (written for SerenityOS) which is very modern including memory safety and security. Still C++ though of course.

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  • [–] [S] 18 points 2 years ago
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    [–] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Once Servo is finished, we might have a browser rennaisance (I hope)

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    [–] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I'll be great. The big question is how long it's left until a stable release

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