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[+] EasternLettuce@lemm.ee 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (41 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 47 child comments replies: [–] rickdg@lemmy.world 65 points 2 years ago (1 child) Looks like a confused Swedish dude that when questioned about his use of English pronouns defaults to not wanting to get political. Is there more besides a misguided decision to avoid relevant political topics? I think we should chastise people that insist on not getting political, but not necessarily boycott everything they do. Or at least we should apply the same moral demands to Mozilla, Apple, Microsoft or Google when choosing which browsers to support. Which of them is the least bad? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 years ago (2 children) There is nothing political about acknowledging peoples' existence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Scrollone@feddit.it 20 points 2 years ago (8 children) Existence? Because somebody used a wrong pronoun? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] pogmommy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) You're right, words are meaningless and language has no bearing on society at large. after all, fuiebt eidiowb rhe efifo quifopim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Scrollone@feddit.it 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's a big difference between negating the existence of people and what happend in this case, i.e. somebody writing a comment (only visible to him and other developers) using the male form. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) The hyperbole here is insane. My trans friend’s Japanese parents are supportive of him, but they have some trouble with pronouns. If you’re not a native English speaker and learned the standard pronouns, then I think it’s just naturally too confusing. Pretty much all of them are translating in their minds in real-time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (7 replies) [–] rickdg@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don’t think we should be scared of the word “political” or “ideology”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yeah, that too... Everything is political if you want to really get into it. People just want to be able to ignore it until it directly affects them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 2 years ago (1 child) ugh transphobia rots people's brains it's not too hard to just be a decent person ppl permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, but there's no transphobia here. Stop spreading nonsense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Ok, you keep saying that but never explain why/how. Like, why refuse such a small change so aggressively? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) The documentation has long since been changed. Note that the anon user is able to become root without a password by default, as a development convenience. To prevent this, remove anon from the wheel group and it will no longer be able to run /bin/su. https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/commit/a2a6bc534868773b9320ec3ca7399283cf7a375b (this seems to have also switched to gender neutral language in other parts.'of the documentation and comments as well). Original drama: https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago Again this shit. This have been debunked many times, yet people still write this nonsense. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) I see zero reason to out the "transphobic" label on the dev. Think and read before labelling people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] EasternLettuce@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] dumnonii@piefed.social 11 points 2 years ago (9 children) I can't see anything about this on DuckDuckGo. Do you have a link? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] RayJW@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 years ago (3 children) https://mkultra.monster/tech/2024/07/03/serenityos-and-ladybird This was a little „write-up“ back when everything became more public. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 years ago* (7 children) I'm surprised this got any kind of attention. Here's the turn of events from my perspective: Someone submits a 1-line PR changing the gender used in a code comment PR rejected on the grounds that the change is "politically motivated" Submitter got mad, and proposed removing the rule against "politically motivated" changes, calling it "white supremacist," which is closed Someone wrote a blog post about it Here's my analysis: Stupid change - don't make PRs that simply correct an irrelevant typo in a comment somewhere; some people do this to put stuff on a resume (look at how much FOSS work I do!), and it just wastes everyone's time Stupid response - it should've been rejected because it's a useless change, not because it's "politically motivated" Stupid proposal - do you really want to waste a bunch of time fighting over wording in a comment? Because that's the kind of crap you get without a rule like this. This is all about an irrelevant change to a comment? Why is this getting so much attention? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] pr0sp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I should be an idiot. I dont see a direct relationship between race and sexual orientation. Even if the PR was rejected because a pronounce how the hell this is white supremacist? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago Well, didn't the Nazis also discriminate against gay people? That said, it's a massive leap to go from "rejects 1 line PR that only changes gender in a comment" to literal Nazi... permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (6 replies) [–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago* "We don't accept ideologically motivated changes" = White supremacist language... Yeah, sounds about like what I expected... permalink fedilink source parent [–] gon@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago Thank you for sharing. permalink fedilink source parent [+] EasternLettuce@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Someone else posted a writeup about it. It wasn't in documentation, but a code comment. No user would see this. One part was a rejected change on the README, which was trying to remove this "white supremacist language": ## On ideologically motivated changes This is a purely technical project. As such, it is not an appropriate arena to advertise your personal politics or religious beliefs. Any changes that appear ideologically motivated will be rejected. Someone changing "he" to "they" (original PR that started all this) in a comment as their only change could absolutely be seen as "politically motivated." My understanding is that if changing the comment was part of some larger useful change, it would be fine (as would using "she" or "they" in a new comment), but just changing the gender of a pronoun in a comment is a useless change. If the comment said "she," would someone have been motivated to make this change? Probably not. Should changing this from "she" to some other pronoun (he or they) also be rejected? Yes, on the same grounds as changing it from "he," it's not a useful change and just wastes everyone's time. If you're in the code already, then go ahead, correct silly language like this if you care to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] EasternLettuce@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago I never said they were. Someone changing “he” to “they” (original PR that started all this) in a comment as their only change could absolutely be seen as “politically motivated.” Look at the fallout in the comments on those PRs, it quickly devolved into politics and quickly away from any technical merit. If this exact same change were included with other changes, I highly doubt anyone would've cared about the comment. The issue isn't with the text of the comment, but with the likely motivation and the actual merits of the PR. Many projects immediately reject tiny PRs because they clog up the review queue, and that appears to be what's happening here, plus all the political nonsense in the issue comments. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] doodledup@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Freakout? Didn't he just reject? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (7 replies) [–] gnygnygny@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago Totally excessive in view of the facts. There are so few alternative browsers and the collapse of the privacy is so global. That seems to me a minor point in relation to the goal. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (35 replies)
[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 65 points 2 years ago (1 child) Looks like a confused Swedish dude that when questioned about his use of English pronouns defaults to not wanting to get political. Is there more besides a misguided decision to avoid relevant political topics? I think we should chastise people that insist on not getting political, but not necessarily boycott everything they do. Or at least we should apply the same moral demands to Mozilla, Apple, Microsoft or Google when choosing which browsers to support. Which of them is the least bad? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 years ago (2 children) There is nothing political about acknowledging peoples' existence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Scrollone@feddit.it 20 points 2 years ago (8 children) Existence? Because somebody used a wrong pronoun? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] pogmommy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) You're right, words are meaningless and language has no bearing on society at large. after all, fuiebt eidiowb rhe efifo quifopim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Scrollone@feddit.it 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's a big difference between negating the existence of people and what happend in this case, i.e. somebody writing a comment (only visible to him and other developers) using the male form. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) The hyperbole here is insane. My trans friend’s Japanese parents are supportive of him, but they have some trouble with pronouns. If you’re not a native English speaker and learned the standard pronouns, then I think it’s just naturally too confusing. Pretty much all of them are translating in their minds in real-time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (7 replies) [–] rickdg@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don’t think we should be scared of the word “political” or “ideology”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yeah, that too... Everything is political if you want to really get into it. People just want to be able to ignore it until it directly affects them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 years ago (2 children) There is nothing political about acknowledging peoples' existence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Scrollone@feddit.it 20 points 2 years ago (8 children) Existence? Because somebody used a wrong pronoun? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] pogmommy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) You're right, words are meaningless and language has no bearing on society at large. after all, fuiebt eidiowb rhe efifo quifopim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Scrollone@feddit.it 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's a big difference between negating the existence of people and what happend in this case, i.e. somebody writing a comment (only visible to him and other developers) using the male form. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) The hyperbole here is insane. My trans friend’s Japanese parents are supportive of him, but they have some trouble with pronouns. If you’re not a native English speaker and learned the standard pronouns, then I think it’s just naturally too confusing. Pretty much all of them are translating in their minds in real-time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (7 replies) [–] rickdg@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don’t think we should be scared of the word “political” or “ideology”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yeah, that too... Everything is political if you want to really get into it. People just want to be able to ignore it until it directly affects them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 20 points 2 years ago (8 children) Existence? Because somebody used a wrong pronoun? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] pogmommy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) You're right, words are meaningless and language has no bearing on society at large. after all, fuiebt eidiowb rhe efifo quifopim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Scrollone@feddit.it 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's a big difference between negating the existence of people and what happend in this case, i.e. somebody writing a comment (only visible to him and other developers) using the male form. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) The hyperbole here is insane. My trans friend’s Japanese parents are supportive of him, but they have some trouble with pronouns. If you’re not a native English speaker and learned the standard pronouns, then I think it’s just naturally too confusing. Pretty much all of them are translating in their minds in real-time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (7 replies)
[–] pogmommy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) You're right, words are meaningless and language has no bearing on society at large. after all, fuiebt eidiowb rhe efifo quifopim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Scrollone@feddit.it 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's a big difference between negating the existence of people and what happend in this case, i.e. somebody writing a comment (only visible to him and other developers) using the male form. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) The hyperbole here is insane. My trans friend’s Japanese parents are supportive of him, but they have some trouble with pronouns. If you’re not a native English speaker and learned the standard pronouns, then I think it’s just naturally too confusing. Pretty much all of them are translating in their minds in real-time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's a big difference between negating the existence of people and what happend in this case, i.e. somebody writing a comment (only visible to him and other developers) using the male form. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) The hyperbole here is insane. My trans friend’s Japanese parents are supportive of him, but they have some trouble with pronouns. If you’re not a native English speaker and learned the standard pronouns, then I think it’s just naturally too confusing. Pretty much all of them are translating in their minds in real-time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don’t think we should be scared of the word “political” or “ideology”. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yeah, that too... Everything is political if you want to really get into it. People just want to be able to ignore it until it directly affects them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Yeah, that too... Everything is political if you want to really get into it. People just want to be able to ignore it until it directly affects them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 2 years ago (1 child) ugh transphobia rots people's brains it's not too hard to just be a decent person ppl permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, but there's no transphobia here. Stop spreading nonsense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Ok, you keep saying that but never explain why/how. Like, why refuse such a small change so aggressively? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) The documentation has long since been changed. Note that the anon user is able to become root without a password by default, as a development convenience. To prevent this, remove anon from the wheel group and it will no longer be able to run /bin/su. https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/commit/a2a6bc534868773b9320ec3ca7399283cf7a375b (this seems to have also switched to gender neutral language in other parts.'of the documentation and comments as well). Original drama: https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, but there's no transphobia here. Stop spreading nonsense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Ok, you keep saying that but never explain why/how. Like, why refuse such a small change so aggressively? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) The documentation has long since been changed. Note that the anon user is able to become root without a password by default, as a development convenience. To prevent this, remove anon from the wheel group and it will no longer be able to run /bin/su. https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/commit/a2a6bc534868773b9320ec3ca7399283cf7a375b (this seems to have also switched to gender neutral language in other parts.'of the documentation and comments as well). Original drama: https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Ok, you keep saying that but never explain why/how. Like, why refuse such a small change so aggressively? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) The documentation has long since been changed. Note that the anon user is able to become root without a password by default, as a development convenience. To prevent this, remove anon from the wheel group and it will no longer be able to run /bin/su. https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/commit/a2a6bc534868773b9320ec3ca7399283cf7a375b (this seems to have also switched to gender neutral language in other parts.'of the documentation and comments as well). Original drama: https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) The documentation has long since been changed. Note that the anon user is able to become root without a password by default, as a development convenience. To prevent this, remove anon from the wheel group and it will no longer be able to run /bin/su. https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/commit/a2a6bc534868773b9320ec3ca7399283cf7a375b (this seems to have also switched to gender neutral language in other parts.'of the documentation and comments as well). Original drama: https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago Again this shit. This have been debunked many times, yet people still write this nonsense. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) I see zero reason to out the "transphobic" label on the dev. Think and read before labelling people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] EasternLettuce@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[+] EasternLettuce@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] dumnonii@piefed.social 11 points 2 years ago (9 children) I can't see anything about this on DuckDuckGo. Do you have a link? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] RayJW@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 years ago (3 children) https://mkultra.monster/tech/2024/07/03/serenityos-and-ladybird This was a little „write-up“ back when everything became more public. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 years ago* (7 children) I'm surprised this got any kind of attention. Here's the turn of events from my perspective: Someone submits a 1-line PR changing the gender used in a code comment PR rejected on the grounds that the change is "politically motivated" Submitter got mad, and proposed removing the rule against "politically motivated" changes, calling it "white supremacist," which is closed Someone wrote a blog post about it Here's my analysis: Stupid change - don't make PRs that simply correct an irrelevant typo in a comment somewhere; some people do this to put stuff on a resume (look at how much FOSS work I do!), and it just wastes everyone's time Stupid response - it should've been rejected because it's a useless change, not because it's "politically motivated" Stupid proposal - do you really want to waste a bunch of time fighting over wording in a comment? Because that's the kind of crap you get without a rule like this. This is all about an irrelevant change to a comment? Why is this getting so much attention? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] pr0sp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I should be an idiot. I dont see a direct relationship between race and sexual orientation. Even if the PR was rejected because a pronounce how the hell this is white supremacist? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago Well, didn't the Nazis also discriminate against gay people? That said, it's a massive leap to go from "rejects 1 line PR that only changes gender in a comment" to literal Nazi... permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (6 replies) [–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago* "We don't accept ideologically motivated changes" = White supremacist language... Yeah, sounds about like what I expected... permalink fedilink source parent [–] gon@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago Thank you for sharing. permalink fedilink source parent [+] EasternLettuce@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Someone else posted a writeup about it. It wasn't in documentation, but a code comment. No user would see this. One part was a rejected change on the README, which was trying to remove this "white supremacist language": ## On ideologically motivated changes This is a purely technical project. As such, it is not an appropriate arena to advertise your personal politics or religious beliefs. Any changes that appear ideologically motivated will be rejected. Someone changing "he" to "they" (original PR that started all this) in a comment as their only change could absolutely be seen as "politically motivated." My understanding is that if changing the comment was part of some larger useful change, it would be fine (as would using "she" or "they" in a new comment), but just changing the gender of a pronoun in a comment is a useless change. If the comment said "she," would someone have been motivated to make this change? Probably not. Should changing this from "she" to some other pronoun (he or they) also be rejected? Yes, on the same grounds as changing it from "he," it's not a useful change and just wastes everyone's time. If you're in the code already, then go ahead, correct silly language like this if you care to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] EasternLettuce@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago I never said they were. Someone changing “he” to “they” (original PR that started all this) in a comment as their only change could absolutely be seen as “politically motivated.” Look at the fallout in the comments on those PRs, it quickly devolved into politics and quickly away from any technical merit. If this exact same change were included with other changes, I highly doubt anyone would've cared about the comment. The issue isn't with the text of the comment, but with the likely motivation and the actual merits of the PR. Many projects immediately reject tiny PRs because they clog up the review queue, and that appears to be what's happening here, plus all the political nonsense in the issue comments. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] doodledup@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Freakout? Didn't he just reject? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (7 replies)
[–] RayJW@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 years ago (3 children) https://mkultra.monster/tech/2024/07/03/serenityos-and-ladybird This was a little „write-up“ back when everything became more public. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 years ago* (7 children) I'm surprised this got any kind of attention. Here's the turn of events from my perspective: Someone submits a 1-line PR changing the gender used in a code comment PR rejected on the grounds that the change is "politically motivated" Submitter got mad, and proposed removing the rule against "politically motivated" changes, calling it "white supremacist," which is closed Someone wrote a blog post about it Here's my analysis: Stupid change - don't make PRs that simply correct an irrelevant typo in a comment somewhere; some people do this to put stuff on a resume (look at how much FOSS work I do!), and it just wastes everyone's time Stupid response - it should've been rejected because it's a useless change, not because it's "politically motivated" Stupid proposal - do you really want to waste a bunch of time fighting over wording in a comment? Because that's the kind of crap you get without a rule like this. This is all about an irrelevant change to a comment? Why is this getting so much attention? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] pr0sp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I should be an idiot. I dont see a direct relationship between race and sexual orientation. Even if the PR was rejected because a pronounce how the hell this is white supremacist? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago Well, didn't the Nazis also discriminate against gay people? That said, it's a massive leap to go from "rejects 1 line PR that only changes gender in a comment" to literal Nazi... permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (6 replies) [–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago* "We don't accept ideologically motivated changes" = White supremacist language... Yeah, sounds about like what I expected... permalink fedilink source parent [–] gon@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago Thank you for sharing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 years ago* (7 children) I'm surprised this got any kind of attention. Here's the turn of events from my perspective: Someone submits a 1-line PR changing the gender used in a code comment PR rejected on the grounds that the change is "politically motivated" Submitter got mad, and proposed removing the rule against "politically motivated" changes, calling it "white supremacist," which is closed Someone wrote a blog post about it Here's my analysis: Stupid change - don't make PRs that simply correct an irrelevant typo in a comment somewhere; some people do this to put stuff on a resume (look at how much FOSS work I do!), and it just wastes everyone's time Stupid response - it should've been rejected because it's a useless change, not because it's "politically motivated" Stupid proposal - do you really want to waste a bunch of time fighting over wording in a comment? Because that's the kind of crap you get without a rule like this. This is all about an irrelevant change to a comment? Why is this getting so much attention? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] pr0sp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I should be an idiot. I dont see a direct relationship between race and sexual orientation. Even if the PR was rejected because a pronounce how the hell this is white supremacist? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago Well, didn't the Nazis also discriminate against gay people? That said, it's a massive leap to go from "rejects 1 line PR that only changes gender in a comment" to literal Nazi... permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (6 replies)
[–] pr0sp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I should be an idiot. I dont see a direct relationship between race and sexual orientation. Even if the PR was rejected because a pronounce how the hell this is white supremacist? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago Well, didn't the Nazis also discriminate against gay people? That said, it's a massive leap to go from "rejects 1 line PR that only changes gender in a comment" to literal Nazi... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago Well, didn't the Nazis also discriminate against gay people? That said, it's a massive leap to go from "rejects 1 line PR that only changes gender in a comment" to literal Nazi... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago* "We don't accept ideologically motivated changes" = White supremacist language... Yeah, sounds about like what I expected... permalink fedilink source parent
[+] EasternLettuce@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Someone else posted a writeup about it. It wasn't in documentation, but a code comment. No user would see this. One part was a rejected change on the README, which was trying to remove this "white supremacist language": ## On ideologically motivated changes This is a purely technical project. As such, it is not an appropriate arena to advertise your personal politics or religious beliefs. Any changes that appear ideologically motivated will be rejected. Someone changing "he" to "they" (original PR that started all this) in a comment as their only change could absolutely be seen as "politically motivated." My understanding is that if changing the comment was part of some larger useful change, it would be fine (as would using "she" or "they" in a new comment), but just changing the gender of a pronoun in a comment is a useless change. If the comment said "she," would someone have been motivated to make this change? Probably not. Should changing this from "she" to some other pronoun (he or they) also be rejected? Yes, on the same grounds as changing it from "he," it's not a useful change and just wastes everyone's time. If you're in the code already, then go ahead, correct silly language like this if you care to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] EasternLettuce@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago I never said they were. Someone changing “he” to “they” (original PR that started all this) in a comment as their only change could absolutely be seen as “politically motivated.” Look at the fallout in the comments on those PRs, it quickly devolved into politics and quickly away from any technical merit. If this exact same change were included with other changes, I highly doubt anyone would've cared about the comment. The issue isn't with the text of the comment, but with the likely motivation and the actual merits of the PR. Many projects immediately reject tiny PRs because they clog up the review queue, and that appears to be what's happening here, plus all the political nonsense in the issue comments. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] doodledup@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Freakout? Didn't he just reject? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Someone else posted a writeup about it. It wasn't in documentation, but a code comment. No user would see this. One part was a rejected change on the README, which was trying to remove this "white supremacist language": ## On ideologically motivated changes This is a purely technical project. As such, it is not an appropriate arena to advertise your personal politics or religious beliefs. Any changes that appear ideologically motivated will be rejected. Someone changing "he" to "they" (original PR that started all this) in a comment as their only change could absolutely be seen as "politically motivated." My understanding is that if changing the comment was part of some larger useful change, it would be fine (as would using "she" or "they" in a new comment), but just changing the gender of a pronoun in a comment is a useless change. If the comment said "she," would someone have been motivated to make this change? Probably not. Should changing this from "she" to some other pronoun (he or they) also be rejected? Yes, on the same grounds as changing it from "he," it's not a useful change and just wastes everyone's time. If you're in the code already, then go ahead, correct silly language like this if you care to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] EasternLettuce@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago I never said they were. Someone changing “he” to “they” (original PR that started all this) in a comment as their only change could absolutely be seen as “politically motivated.” Look at the fallout in the comments on those PRs, it quickly devolved into politics and quickly away from any technical merit. If this exact same change were included with other changes, I highly doubt anyone would've cared about the comment. The issue isn't with the text of the comment, but with the likely motivation and the actual merits of the PR. Many projects immediately reject tiny PRs because they clog up the review queue, and that appears to be what's happening here, plus all the political nonsense in the issue comments. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[+] EasternLettuce@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago I never said they were. Someone changing “he” to “they” (original PR that started all this) in a comment as their only change could absolutely be seen as “politically motivated.” Look at the fallout in the comments on those PRs, it quickly devolved into politics and quickly away from any technical merit. If this exact same change were included with other changes, I highly doubt anyone would've cared about the comment. The issue isn't with the text of the comment, but with the likely motivation and the actual merits of the PR. Many projects immediately reject tiny PRs because they clog up the review queue, and that appears to be what's happening here, plus all the political nonsense in the issue comments. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago I never said they were. Someone changing “he” to “they” (original PR that started all this) in a comment as their only change could absolutely be seen as “politically motivated.” Look at the fallout in the comments on those PRs, it quickly devolved into politics and quickly away from any technical merit. If this exact same change were included with other changes, I highly doubt anyone would've cared about the comment. The issue isn't with the text of the comment, but with the likely motivation and the actual merits of the PR. Many projects immediately reject tiny PRs because they clog up the review queue, and that appears to be what's happening here, plus all the political nonsense in the issue comments. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Freakout? Didn't he just reject? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gnygnygny@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago Totally excessive in view of the facts. There are so few alternative browsers and the collapse of the privacy is so global. That seems to me a minor point in relation to the goal. permalink fedilink source parent