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How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 38 minutes ago* (last edited 4 minutes ago)

Don't worry, he'll just give Musk another $50 million government contract to redo them. And by "redo", I mean turn them back on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 minutes ago

That is offensive and sad. Keeping existing infrastructure that makes a nice employee perk has high value. Cost savings on electricity seems like a bs minimal excuse.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 hour ago

Shameful. Reminds me of when Reagan had the solar panels removed from the roof of the White House.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

This is really funny imo.

We are past the time when green technology needs a boost.

We are now at a time when green tech is the cheapest solution.

So these are all theatre, cause green will be the obvious choice for those who think about the bottom line moving forward.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago

Cruelty is the point

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 hours ago (7 children)

Off topic, but any other non-US people here, how are you reacting to the USA's facism on hyperdrive streak?

I don't think the US has ever been the most popular country, but now the president is trying to eradicate palestine, disrupt European security from Russia, and plunge the world into a climate apocalypse at an even faster than before rate, I feel a lot worse about any interactions with the USA. I've been trying to move away from using anything US produced or owned, which isn't particularly easy.

Is it just me? Was I naive to think US was any better before? Am I naive in singling out the US?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

it's especially hard trying to move away from US produced goods and media for me, as I am in the US

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

German here. We are 4 to 8 years away from Nazis becoming elected again, at least very likely. I'm looking with horror towards the US and just hope he burns it down so fast that the right shift looses it's current drive in Europe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Nah, we can't rely on external signals doing anything like that. We need to make peoples lives better. The right surge is an emotional rectioan amplified by external propaganda, but fundamentally people are right to protest against the current system which keeps impoverishing them. The conclusion of voting right wing is wrong of course.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

dude also purged the generals yesterday

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago

Lithuanian here, a very popular Facebook page keeps posting "Trump is about to wake up, prepare for him saying something stupid" every day.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Hi, Aussie here. Entirely expected and unsurprising. I mean Hitler learned from the USA.

Been watching the usa destroy everything nice about Australia for my entire life and waiting for the other shoe to drop. Good luck, please don't our government again if we elect another socialist.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 minutes ago* (last edited 6 minutes ago)

Another Aussie here. We have elections coming up and looking at the US as a cautionary tale for reactionary politics. Hoping it does not translate to success for our Trump-lite candidate here.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Canadian here, it pains me to admit that my hope at this point is that Trump manages to crash the US so fast that it hits rock bottom before invading us.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Yep, at the moment I don't think most of their military would follow the order,but in a few years they might. Best case scenario America balkanizes before then, and we can make friends with the sane countries like the New California Republic while ignoring the crazy ones like whatever the Mormon theocracy calls their new country

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

100% chance we're getting Ukrained if he gets the opportunity.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

This isn’t off topic at all. What brand are the chargers currently installed? And when the armored cybertrucks are mandated government vehicles, what brand of chargers will be reinstalled? And at whose order is all of this happening?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago

We like that lobby money yeees

[–] [email protected] 50 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Fuuuuuuuuck why? He is actively trying to kill the planet?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

People use to complain that Captain Planet had unrealistic villains.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

It's called accelerationism. It's the belief that a better society can only come about after a large disruptive event wipes out the current system. Those that survive (lots of billionaires with bunkers) will shape the new society in their eyes. It's real and it's terrifying. Like you I was mystified by the choices of the rich and powerful until I learned about this shit. Now it all makes sense...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

Hahahaha

If we truly do lose our modern comfort, tyrants would be the first thing on the chopping block.

Like how it always is, similar to the French Revolution.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 13 hours ago

Not even that, it's the religious nutters trying to ponk the apocalypse.

Fun fact: for the theologians they're already at antichrist level

[–] [email protected] 18 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

They must have watched Fallout TV series and thought "we should do that".

But even if no civilisation ending event happens and billionaires think they could take the helm, people will rise up first. Too many hungry stomachs will not tolerate such brazen wealth inequality and power grab. The only reason that there is hardly any popular revolt yet in America is because many people are still comfortable. Wait until they aren't anymore.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

People won't rise up. Americans are currently losing their healthcare, education and pensions and they are cheering this on.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago

They are losing those, but they haven't lost them yet. It'll take at least a few years of actually living without them for the people to wake up and revolt. The end of serfdom took from 1860's or so until 1918.

It will take time but it will happen.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Why do you think their focus has been on robotics and AI, even as the consumer bubble has all but burst? As soon as they don't have to worry about being "got" by their own security forces, billionaires will really show how much disdain and contempt they have for the masses and any attempt to rein them in will be lost forever.

Totally just my opinion, though.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

In that far flung dystopian vision, the billionaire class (in efforts to save some meaningless wealth) would hire the shittiest coders and manufacturers for their death bot army so that some 14 year old geek in Nebraska would find a way to reprogram them all to do Fortnite dances and execute their masters.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago

Don't do that. Don't give me hope of righteous retribution for these parasites!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Probably so more people are forced to charge at Tesla stations and pump money to Musk.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 16 hours ago

The guy already has a monopoly on smart EVs Fuck Musk open up the US to Chinese vehicles so that he has to sit at the big kids table.

[–] [email protected] 107 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

That will surely lower the cost of eggs! I know people say it all the time, but like cruelty is the point. Why do this? There is no savings, no point, it’s just to be a prick.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Everything he is doing is just to be a prick.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Not true. He's also stealing and grifting a lot of money. Like, this guy was in insane debt before he ran for office... Now I believe he's probably a legit billionaire.

He went to make sure fort Knox had gold the other day... Lol. We know what this guy is doing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Which is being... a prick!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 18 hours ago

Russia is a petro state. Need I elaborate?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Everyone is focusing on musk, not realizing he's trumps patsy. He's the goddamn fall guy. He said some true, but unkind, things about trump and trump doesn't forget slights. If this charade starts to crumble, he's going to point at musk and blame him for everything.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I think they have other fall guys lined up. Trump seems barely coherent enough to run for office, musk is pulling trump's strings

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

They're both more than dumb enough to believe that the other one is their patsy without realising they're really both Putin's puppets.

It would be kind of tragicomic if they weren't fucking up the world in the process.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 20 hours ago

@silence7 Oof. There is going to be hell to pay when the president finds out about this….

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