Summary

Donald Trump and Elon Musk are falsely claiming that tens of millions of dead people collect Social Security to justify cutting “waste” and “fraud.”

Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick echoed this, calling Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid “wrong” while supporting Musk’s plan to slash $1 trillion in spending.

Despite Trump’s public assurances, House Republicans’ budget proposals include deep cuts to these programs while prioritizing massive tax breaks for the wealthy.

Experts note improper Social Security payments are minimal, contradicting Musk’s claims.

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[–] 129 points 2 years ago (18 children)

As a masochist, I still regularly check Facebook comments. The vast majority of Republicans are calling this "fake news" and still claim that Trump would NEVER cut their social security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, disability, etc. They're in for a wild ride. And I say that with an incredibly heavy heart, knowing how many people this will hurt.

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  • [–] 53 points 2 years ago

    Guess we will see what happens because this administration is creating a lot of desperate people in a country awash in firearms.

    What happens is likely to be violence against trans people, immigrants, and minorities who will be scapegoats for breaking the social safety net.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    The second amendment was supposed to be about the citizens protecting themselves against a fascist government, right? (Though I don't think the term existed back then)

    Here's the fascist government, Americans. What are you actually using your second amendment for?

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    I'm surprised they are even calling it fake news instead of celebrating about how it's going to own the libs with how they will gladly suffer if it means others do too.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Yeah, I've heard that half of Trump voters receive some sort of government assistance, and if true, this will hit them hard. These folks won't be able to put food on their table or get the medical care they need without bankruptcy. I'm torn between "haha face eating leopards" and feeling incredibly defeated because humans are going to suffer, and I never want to see that. It's such a complicated mess.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    I'm a school bus driver and most of my colleagues (and me for that matter) are either already collecting Social Security and Medicare or working towards that in a few years. They are also mostly trumpers and love what is currently happening. They are certain the republicans won't cut SS or medicare because then 70 million people would be marching on Washington - which is pretty laughable coming from people that have trouble climbing into their buses in the morning.

    My fear is that the Muskovites will keep these benefits in place for their supporters and cut them off for democrats, something they could easily do with their control over information technology and social media.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    Honestly, if it weren't for the fact that Trumpers would gladly destroy their own lives to see me and mine dead (Queer folk), I'd feel somewhat bad for them too. However, they've shown time and again that they want us dead for the pettiest and most made up reasons, so I'll feel nothing but contempt for them as they burn. As for everyone else... for them, I will weep openly, as they do not deserve this fresh Hell.

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    [–] 58 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Remember the Great Depression? This guy doesnt.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago

    The govt is in the process of deporting 18 million illegal workers, that's gonna drive inflation through the roof.

    Then Trump will order the Fed Reserve to lower interest rates (like Erdogan did in Turkey). Inflation will go nuts.

    Wild times ahead.

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  • [–] 49 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    But but the Boomers kept telling us Trump would never go after Medicare!

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago (22 children)

    A bunch of people who fucked around bout to find out

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago

    this is the kind of shit that didn't ever happen even in the most brazen ripping-copper-from-the-walls years of 90s privatization in eastern block. yall elected your own yeltsin and now you'll deal with consequences

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If it's wrong, then I want my money back. If they revoke the promise of returning what is due to me in retirement after years of paying into the system, then fuck them, I want it back. Every cent.

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    So I'm going to get a refund plus interest for everything I've paid into the system, right?

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This entire endeavor, basically the work they've been doing for the last century, is to undo the entirety of the new deal. We didn't lock them up and execute them after the business plot like we should have. Just a bunch of robber barons trying to take us back to the Gilded Age.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago*

    So they will fight the fraud, and all the saved money instead of going to dead people will go to living people, meaning people will get more under these programs?

    Right? /s

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I guess that’s what happens when you appoint a Bond villain as commerce secretary

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    Helping Americans in their time of need is wrong!... We should be trying to find ways to pay more for healthcare and give up our houses to those who can work and give money to Elon.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago*

    When I was 20, I also didn’t comprehend that you could have incomplete data so assumed the real world was wrong.

    Imagine dealing with data tracking hundreds of millions of people across multiple generations starting from before the time of computers and having to deal with the reality of missing or lost data/documentation. We can’t confirm your birthdate because that hospital burned down 80 years ago? FRAUD. /s

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    So Trump is anti-Zombie too?

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