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Why some female physicians are eyeing a move to Canada from the U.S. (www.cp24.com)

submitted 2 years ago by RandAlThor@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

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[-] brendansimms@lemmy.world 77 points 2 years ago

With the new fascist us administration, there’s whole swaths of scientists from every discipline being fired from national research orgs. Canada has an oppprtunity to be the recipient of a siginificant US brain drain

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 38 points 2 years ago

The whole damn world.

The single best thing about America, its scientific infrastructure, and some jackass who can't admit he made a typo for coffee is taking an ax to it.

[-] EisFrei@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

I think "coverage" is more likely in the context.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago

I'd actually forgotten the original context but you're almost certainly right

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago

People are moving to Mexico too, they also have zero to low cost healthcare.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

What about prescriptions and dental? If they have those that's a step up from Canada.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago

I had a friend that was living on a visa down there and paid $5 for their prescription no matter what it was. I don't know if that's universal though.

Also, the more I look at their wikipedia page, it seems like it's a mix of private and public. I'm not sure I understand how it works, but it might be like medicaid in the US.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

Interesting. We do have pharmacare here for lower income but I really think it should be universal. Divest ourself from the pharmaceutical system of the states.

And I'll vote NDP as long as we have to make sure no one has to worry about their teeth.

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Maybe we get the ones back who were chasing money.

[-] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 44 points 2 years ago

Come to Canada. We need more physicians in general. Welcome!!

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago

We will respect your expertise too!

[-] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 years ago

I was going to say well that is one way to help get more doctors, but then I saw this quote and I just got mind ducked. Why should a child need to make this statement, I cannot believe how lucky we are here in Canada.

“My daughter actually said to me, ‘There’s no camera on our school bus. If someone comes to shoot us, they’re not going to know who did it.’” Fleming says she told her school shootings are rare to non-existent in Canada because of gun laws.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 7 points 2 years ago

Mindfucked*

[-] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Let's roll out the welcome wagon folks!

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 years ago

Bring your oppressed genders, race, LGBTIA+ workers and educators here to Canada!

[-] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 years ago

World class physicians, scientists and intellectuals? Yes please

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago

We will actually value their skills and knowledge unlike some anti-intellectual red state.

[-] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 17 points 2 years ago

Don't forget to renounce your US citizenship. It costs just $2300 + income tax on everything you have

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 10 points 2 years ago

This is why you wait until the wars start and it's free.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Aaaand your USD is worthless

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 4 points 2 years ago

There are a few countries in the world where you can hold US dual citizenship. Canada is one if them. You can become a Canadian citizen without renouncing your US citizenship

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

But isn't it true that you still have to pay some sort of annual tax to the USA even if you no longer live there?

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Americans have to submit tax forms to the IRS every year, even if they are no longer living there or earning income there.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No. It is not true.

I lived outside the US for many years and never even filed my taxes because my income was less than $100,000 per year.

If you earn a bit more than that, or you have income from capital gains, then may have to report it and pay taxes, yes.

See IRS rules for "Foreign Income Exclusion"

[-] bunkyprewster@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago

Could you explain this? I don't know the context.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago

A post (that now appears to be deleted) of a American that moved to Singapore and renounced their citizenship after obtaining Singaporean citizenship. Apparently the OP there was charged $2300 to do it and the post was a digital receipt for that.

[-] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I'm just spitballing here, but why would you pay taxes on your way out? I mean torch the passport, make an afternoon of it by all means. But pay a fee and tax? Just leave right?

[-] gonzo-rand19@moist.catsweat.com 10 points 2 years ago

The US is one of the only countries in the world where citizens are taxed even when they don't live there (and haven't for many years). If you don't pay taxes on your way out but you have to visit for any reason, cops can arrest you when you re-enter.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They also have extradition treaties in most countries, so you'd have to avoid about half of the world.

[-] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

You have taken all the whimsy and drama of leaving your country of birth. Fucking paper work and taxes!?!? I'm talking long beach cuts, walking defiantly off and never looking back.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago

How do you cross borders without your passport?

Just say goodbye and never see your family and friends again? Good luck.

[-] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 10 points 2 years ago

Because as long as you're US citizen, they will persecute you for every penny of income tax even if you work abroad.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Its not every penny. Its excess of $100,000 per year last time I checked. See rules for "Foreign Income Exclusion"

But thats just income. Capital gains limits are much lower.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 8 points 2 years ago

Burning a passport doesn't renounce your citizenship. You still have to pay taxes. If not, they'll either extridite you or arrest you when you visit the US.

You can get out of it, but you have to pay expatriation fees, including an exit tax on your assets

[-] jeff@programming.dev 17 points 2 years ago

This isn't surprising to me. I know that this might not be strictly relevant to this community, but I thought I'd share anyway.

I live in a conservative state that has restricted a lot of women's health services(abortions). We had a really great family doctor, she was my wife's OB, she was my kids pediatrician, she even delivered my youngest. She moved to New Zealand over a year ago and we are still upset over it.

We have multiple friends and acquaintances that had to go to a neighboring state for a "procedure" because hospitals in my state refuse to do anything that medically is related to abortions. One friend had a miscarriage and needed a procedure to remove remaining tissue in her uterus and she had to go to another state, even though there wasn't an embryo in there anymore.

It's nuts. I'd love to get out of here, but we have young kids and all of our family is local.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago

It's so hard to leave. Not only is it expensive, but the family ties tie us up. My mother in law refuses to move away from my sister in law's kids. My wife refuses to move away from her mother, because she is elderly and needs our help. I owe a lifelong debt to my wife so I will not leave her.

My friend is moving to Uruguay. I would love to join him.

[-] ragepaw@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago

Yes please.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

All physicians should be considering this, given the risks to them of providing basic healthcare to women in some US states. This may also become true of providing healthcare to transgender people.

Unfortunately Canada is suffering from Conservative premiers working hard to cut public healthcare and privatize it. Canada needs to vote them out and turn that around, while taking this chance to invest and attract medical professionals from the USA. (And don't elect Conservatives federally either.)

Canada should also take this opportunity to invest in science and attract scientists from the USA. It could be a real boost in these economically challenging times.