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Will that actually stop him at this point?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 minutes ago

Can’t read the article it’s paywalled

[–] [email protected] 102 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

It's too late in some ways. He's already had access. The system has been compromised. Any number of bad actors, including Musk himself, could have asked used this situation to insert their own code into the system. We will never again be able to be certain that it is secure.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

I imagine this looks a lot like what people in the cyber security sector do after a breach. Audit all the code, scan all the servers, monitor everything for several months. It's a ton of work and very expensive, but there are people with lots of real-world experience unhacking systems.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

But the data is siphoned off now. We can, nay, have to assume this.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

yup. the real answer is to rotate EVERYTHING

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

Ahh yes. Lets just rotate every americans social security number and every organizations tax-payer id.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 30 minutes ago

Ah, I see someone has been to Hilbert's Grand Hotel.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

you joke but that may be the only way

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 hours ago

That data is largely worthless. Mostly because so much of it has leaked so many times over the past decade or two. That is why so many people have a special tax code or whatever.

The real "value" of having access to the treasury is not the data itself. It is the ability to change that data in a manner that directly defies congress, the budget, and everything else.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

The US could finally become a modern country with actual national ID!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

Yeah leaked data stays leaked. You can often find out what was leaked tho.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 hours ago

Elon Musk is technically a job creator because so many people have to be hired just to fix his fuck ups.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I can't read the article because paywall, but I assume access was blocked by some sort of court injunction. So what'll really happen is that that stuff is how actual-patriot treasury employees will occupy their time until the ruling gets appealed to some MAGA judge and Musk waltzes right back in again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Yes, you will be able to trust the system, after an independent team have ripped out the old system and built a new from the ground up.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 hour ago

They don't care about legal, so why should that bother him?

They are in the middle of a coup, they don't fear what currently is still the law.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago

yes, bar him after he already has the data. brilliant move.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Last I saw they still have two "special employees" with "read only" access. So he still has "read only" access

But also? They already made code changes. And while I doubt they would be able to do anything meaningful, it is not hard to add another user account or an ssh tunnel to get through the "air gap". And it would not be beyond musk et al to call that "hacking".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Just to be clear, I will absolutely create new domain users or add my own ssh keys to an authorized_keys file to escalate privs or move laterally through a network while I’m “hacking”.

Also a malicious actor opening a reverse port forward tunnel with ssh allows them to punch a hole to them on the WAN side of the network when they’re dealing with NAT or firewall rules. If a system is truly airgapped then that accomplishes nothing. You’d need something plugged in to the airgapped system or airgapped network to bridge that air gap, like a usb adapter that has a SIM card in it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 minutes ago

Since we are talking about payment systems that interact with other banking systems, they will not be actually air gapped. By the nature and purpose of the systems in question, they must have access to the physical Internet (even if it is entirely abstracted away under layers of VPNs and encryption).

Assuming them compromised is prudent. Physical access is total access.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 hours ago

hahahahahaha now that they installed every back door known to man and beast alike

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

Too late, his 19 year old blood boy already hit em with the select *

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

"Dale! NO POWER TOOLS!"

"Well I WAS DONE ANYWAY"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Why would it stop him? All he has to do is have Trump pardon him. They can do anything they want they have the guy that can hand out get out of jail free cards.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Just need to keep repeating, "Trump looks weak next to President Musk." over and over, and everywhere. That could get under his craw.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Need media to keep asking "Who actually is the president" and accidentally saying "President Musk" over and over

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

They already made code changes. Shits compromised and they have access to everything.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 hours ago

What does it say?