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[–] [email protected] 2 points 25 minutes ago

He's going to fund it with the tariffs

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

Socialism is good when the govt buys my shitcoin

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

Ironically I'll go out of my way to buy our support businesses who aren't American more than I will those that are American

[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

His supporters now love socialism.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 51 minutes ago* (last edited 50 minutes ago)

Seems more like the standard fascist approach to me. It's probably not going to stay government owned.

  1. Demonize a minority group

  2. Government takes control of businesses owned by members of that minority

  3. Government gives control of the business to (typically larger) businesses owned by the dominant group, allowing them to artificially produce growth (what Zucc is likely aiming for)

  4. Narrow the scope of who is accepted in the dominant group, move on to the next minority, and repeat.

This is why communists often describe fascism as "capitalism in decay." Because of the tendency of the rate of profit to fall, it becomes harder and harder for companies to find new ways of producing growth, and have to find methods that aren't involved with actually increasing productivity, which is where you get enshittification. The fascist economic solution is obviously unsustainable, it's like eating your own arm, but corporations that are desperately focused on short term growth (the vast majority of them) will happily sign on.

Socialism, otoh, is not about finding more stuff to feed into corporations, but, upon reaching that point, transforming the economy to remove the need for endless growth through nationalization. But socialism is not synonymous with nationalization, especially when the nationalization is selectively targeted and (most likely) temporary.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago

Yes think of it more akin to what the Germans did to companies that failed or that they didn’t like during WW2.

Very similar premise.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 hours ago

That's not socialism. It's state capitalism. Socialism would mean the workers owned (and controlled, not just nominally owned) the means of production.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

How the fuck is this a valid executive order when it's clearly purse string shit. This is something congress would have to do.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The funny thing is, if just won't work. Ok, he says to do it. Some lackey goes off to do it. But someone has to sign the check. The money has to come from somewhere. That's when the shit hits the fan.

Unless Congress does whatever he says like little lap dogs. Ok, yeah, I convinced myself now that it'll happen.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The money has to come from somewhere.

That's why elons team took over the treasury payments system.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

Oof... Yeah, there it is

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Congress would have to first stop him. He does so many blatantly illegal things though and nobody ever actually cares, though, so that's unlikely.

Two inches from the best timeline. We got fucked.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Two inches from the best timeline. We got fucked.

What two inches? What was the best timeline that we missed out on so narrowly? 2000? Because Reagan won by a lot, if I’m remembering correctly.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I mean any timeline without this 2nd Trump term would be a heck of a lot nicer.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Sometimes shit to get really bad before it gets worse...

Example: the great depression.

But it doesn't seem like Trump pleb supporters are coming around.. Yet. Let's see how much abuse they can take from daddy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Well they haven't seen much abuse yet. They just dodged a nice bump in inflation for a month.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It's in the old feudal sense, your sovereign demands tribute...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago

People need to hit up their old pol sci books haha...

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

So TikTok will become state media. That can't go wrong.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Always has been

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

just not even hiding they're the National Socialism party.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

There was no socialism in the party... Wether historically, nor now

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Of course there wasn’t. Calling it like that was a marketing ploy to pull in leftist workers (see eg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party). Fun part is that this trick still works, given how often it is used as evidence that “left-leaning people are the real nazis”.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty sure Hitler provided something to the "proper" Germans... Trump ain't gonna do shot for his pleb base, just the owner class base like President Musk.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Indeed, his rhetoric gave the people back their pride, he gave them infrastructure and a job and helped Germany from the ruins of WW1 back on its feet. All for a massive war effort (and much, much worse), as it turned out.
Orange Mussolini is just an awful grifter, in it for himself indeed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I didn't say there was.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I thought TrumpCoin was the sovereign's wealth fund.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Can’t put all eggs in one basket eh?