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Comic is Classic X-Men Issue #54 https://batcave.biz/reader/17480/118617

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago

The thing about magneto is that he was right a lot of the time but other times he was that image of those black dudes whipping the white guys in a cottonfield but completely unironically

[–] [email protected] 24 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Magneto is the first villain who got hit with the "oh shit he's right, make him kick a puppy" ray

[–] [email protected] 22 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The problem is that Marvel keeps making Humanity the Hitler-Sapiens so even apocalypse's kill all humans theory starts becoming more justified

[–] [email protected] 21 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

One of the nice ambiguities of Magneto is his costume. Traditionally prime colors (the art ones not physics) are for heroes and secondary for villains or “monstrous” heroes like the Hulk and Thing. There are some exceptions but most golden to Bronze Age heroes fit this pattern. Once you see this you can’t unseen it everywhere.

Magneto though is one of the few/earliest with both a primary color (red) and secondary (purple). The contrasting heroic and villainous aspects of his character.

Also red is traditionally a color of revolution and purple of monarchy, so he contains that contradiction as well. He is both the mutant revolutionary but also would be mutant king.

Finally he has a cape which are less common in marvel but still generally heroic garment, but then he has a sinister looking helmet which is more of a villain item. Often when he is more heroic he is depicted sans helmet and putting it on is when he descends into villainy (it’s telepathy blocking was actually invented by the movies).

[–] [email protected] 12 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 14 hours ago

Second panel Magneto walking has emoji potential

[–] [email protected] 10 points 14 hours ago

I always admire comic book characters ability to speak a full sentence while being pummeled or launched into the air

[–] [email protected] 13 points 16 hours ago

:marge-holding-potato: I just think he's Mag-neato

[–] [email protected] 51 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The reason X men doesn't work is because the main villain is basically the only person in the universe that is thinking about anything

[–] [email protected] 30 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I gotta be real, if that universe existed and I lived in it i would be nervous that any random can just get the power to control the weather and stuff at that kind of scale. A lot could go real bad real quick. Some teenager finds out he creates a nuclear explosion when he stomps his feet or things along those lines being a factor would be really scary.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I think there've also been multiple global infections - viral, psychic, and nanotech - that were all designed to either make people hate mutants (more), randomly make them into mutants, or just plain ol' kill mutants. Marvel Earth is cursed.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 17 hours ago

There's already mass shootings all the time, throwing mutants into that mix is no good. However mutant Luigi

[–] [email protected] 10 points 18 hours ago

This is increasingly where the world is heading, so it's actually quite prescient! Read X-Men spinoff novella "Infect Your Friends and Loved Ones"

[–] [email protected] 46 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Need to have a Magneto movie, I'm thinking the plot is that he wants to stop the government from doing fashy shit, gets stopped by the X Men because Professor X wants to vote the fash out of office, the fashy shit happens exactly like the fashy government guys said it would, Magneto gets busted out of plastic jail by radicalized former X Men, saves the world by killing a bunch of fashy government dudes. Film ends with him standing by Prof Xs grave, who was killed by the FBI, and teasing a sequel where he will fully overthrow the government. It'd be the best X Men film since Logan.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

There was supposed to be one but then they fucked up X-Men Origins: Wolverine enough that it got turned into X-Men First Class instead

[–] [email protected] 11 points 17 hours ago

Cowards couldn't even let Magneto actually destroy that Navy squadron.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

So what is Magneto's goal in regards to non-mutants exactly? Enslave them? Kill em all? Something else?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Usually he’s more about making a mutant homeland that ranges from pro-national liberation metaphor to pro-Zionism metaphor depending on the author.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 17 hours ago

As with all things comics: it depends on the writer. Some writers do approach him as a genocidal mutant supremacist who sees humanity as inferior beings....but thats frankly boring and shallow. The more interesting take on magneto is that he's basically a pragmatic fatalist. His experiences in the Holocaust and the nature of mutation and evolutionary history have convinced him that coexistence simply isn't possible. Tragic though it may be, a genocidal war that ends with one survivor is unavoidable and inevitable.

To this point...he's had several solutions he's been open to. He's seen killing them all as the most likely outcome but he's also considered complete peaceful separation or even co-existsnce.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

It's probably different with each reboot and timeline. In the first movie, he built a machine in the statue of liberty to turn everyone into a mutant I think.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

During Claremont's run (this issue is from that run) it was conquer humanity and rule via an enlightened monarchy until they went extint naturally like it happened with neanderthals

[–] [email protected] 17 points 17 hours ago

wut what no theory does to a mf

[–] [email protected] 16 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Was his organization still called "The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants" at this point?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 16 hours ago

To quote tumblr

like you all wouldnt be hyped as fuck to join a gay rights club called the “brotherhood of evil gays”

[–] [email protected] 10 points 17 hours ago

He was solo in this issue.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 21 hours ago

picard-annoyed "What gives you the right to decide humans should stop destroying the planet and themselves so we can all live in a golden age of prosperity?!"

(Ignore Professor X's Star Trek cosplay)

[–] [email protected] 38 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 19 hours ago

WHO DOES HE THINK HE IS? STALIN?

[–] [email protected] 45 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

"Look that sounds great, but you killed some people (who admittedly also killed a LOT MORE people and were trying to kill you) so were gonna have to overthrow you in the name of freedom and democracy."

[–] [email protected] 29 points 21 hours ago

The Marvel Way.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Magneto and some versions of Dr. Doom are way too sympathetic at points.

So naturally they have the do random evil shit at points like being friends with Captain Israel.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't Dr. Doom know all futures and is the only one smart enough to save humanity or something?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

No clue. I'm more of a Dark Horse guy.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

That woman who was so callous that The Hulk was too disgusted to smash her and just left?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 19 hours ago

Is she still gonna be in the new marvel slop or did they actually cut her?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Usually when a person tries to change it for thw better make it utopian or some shit, even with less side effect, there is always some shit like "oh youre trying to play god" or life is meaningless without struggle. Then in the next couple of issues there is the reminder that there exists the plane of hell where countless innocents are tortured for eternity and the so called villain you lectured probably would have rid the multiverse of it

[–] [email protected] 8 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Watch Metallic Rouge, the Blanquist "villain" ultimately triumphs over the liberal antihero even after her death at the hands of an annoying determinist.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I love the guy in the foreground "YOU'VE GONE MAD"

[–] [email protected] 25 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That would be dumb ass Cyclops.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 21 hours ago

one eye; checks out

[–] [email protected] 25 points 21 hours ago

"Also we're doing this one evil thing because you mustn't agree with the villain"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 21 hours ago

Least evil Mossad agent