Summary

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. accused Bernie Sanders of taking millions from Big Pharma during a heated exchange, but Sanders refuted the claim, stating his donations came from workers, not corporate PACs.

Kennedy repeatedly insisted Sanders was the top recipient of pharmaceutical money in 2020, but financial data shows no corporate PAC contributions to Sanders.

Meanwhile, Kennedy has profited from anti-vaccine activism, earning millions from lawsuits and speaking fees.

The debate ended without Kennedy answering whether he would guarantee health care for all as HHS secretary.

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[–] 322 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Questioning Sanders’ integrity would be the last thing I’d want to do; especially if I were as ill-advised as RFK.

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  • [–] 153 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    RFK believes that he is above reproach. He is the delusional you get when you are born into massive wealth and privilege and think that you personally hit a home run. Completely surrounded by yes men his entire life. Trumpesk even.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yes, and in my personal experience, I’ve found people who feel they are never wrong to be the most uninformed and unintelligent of all people. It’s so sad that these people also are the ones that somehow rise to power and influence.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    We really need to stop thinking the Kennedy family are in any way special other than Joe who IRL is a nice guy who tries to stop people from freezing to death.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    One thing I really do not understand. How can a bear be roadkill? What does your car look like after you hit a bear?

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    [–] 205 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    “And by the way, Bernie, the problem of corruption is not just in the federal agencies. It’s in Congress too,” Kennedy said. “Almost all the members of this panel, including yourself, are accepting millions of dollars from the pharmaceutical industry and protecting their interests.”

    “Oh, no, no, no, no,” Sanders said, raising his hand to quiet the applause that erupted from the gallery. “I ran for president like you. I got millions and millions of contributions. They did not come from the executives; not one nickel of PAC money from the pharmaceutical industry. They came from the workers.”

    RFK just kept saying it over and over again like Sanders didn't address it. 1.5 million of the 200 million raised for his presidential campaign came from health care workers. And he still didn't answer the question, only for Sanders to be told he's battering the witness.

    Fucking hate this time line.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Keep saying it as if it was never addressed because that's what works.

    If you say something enough times it is reality to the majority of the voter base in the US.

    If you ignore all refutes logic or facts and simply steam ahead with your word being the only right word then that will become reality

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    [–] 145 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I feel sorry for Sanders calling out that buffoon.

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  • [–] 175 points 2 years ago (53 children)

    I feel sorry that the Democratic party opted to cheat us out of President Sanders.

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  • [–] 45 points 2 years ago (20 children)

    Contrary to the circles we reside in, most of the US despises any act of "socialism". It's ingrained in the culture after 50 years of waging a cold war against an entity that was associated with everything on the left because of propaganda. It will take a long time before enough of the people born before 1990 have died off before people will warm up to it again (I'm in this group too, being born 1982, but I wasn't politically aware enough care at the time, but some other kids' parents no doubt instilled this hate of socialism into them growing up. Millennials/Xennials, the generation that was supposedly the most left leaning in recent times, basically started 4chan, and look what it became).

    We ARE in an echo chamber. I came to discover this when talking to young folks about Harris/Trump. Despite the enthusiasm I saw here for Harris, it did not translate to the real world at all. We have to come to grips with the fact that the majority of Americans suck.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    I think about this every time I talk to my "liberal" family and they don't even realize they're spouting conservative bullshit.

    "I worked hard for my house, I deserve to live in it alone until I die" while their son who didn't ask for cancer or to not be able to afford his medications is on the verge of homelessness. I guess my hard work and being underpaid my whole life just doesn't count compared to theirs? I guess the fact that our country mercilessly exploited the rest of the world, preventing them from living such comfortable lives, to be able to achieve such comfort for ourselves, means nothing? Those people in other countries worked hard too and lived in multigenerational housing for, well, generations. But they don't deserve it somehow, they aren't American, and we're the best so we deserve it or some other fucking delusional shit I don't fucking understand it.

    They don't get it and at this point I'm pretty sure they never fucking will because the poison of Individualism has gotten them and US citizens don't understand Collectivism or the sacrifices you make for society at all.

    All the Boomers are just like Biden. No matter being the source of all our problems, they won't lift a finger to make a sacrifice at the end, because "they worked hard and they shouldn't have to." Sure, when all the queers are being lined up for the firing squad, I'm sure it will mean a lot to them that you just couldn't lift a finger to prevent it because "you worked hard" and "you deserved a calm end of your life" as if these other people being rounded up to be murdered didn't deserve that.

    Biden could have done a fuckton for us on his way out, but not a single fucking person in charge is going to make a sacrifice for us. Not Biden, not Merchan, not anybody.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago

    My immediate family is largely conservative voters, and they go on about what government should do, and it's all decently lefty suggestions, but try to point that out to them and they go nuts. Most people just seem very ignorant of politics in general.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago

    Nah dude, Bernie was WAY more popular than you’re giving him credit for. That’s revisionist history. He won multiple states in the primaries. That doesn’t happen for a Reddit echo chamber candidate. He even won important states like Michigan and Wisconsin.

    He really did shake up the Democratic Party, which is why they panicked and did everything they could to push Bernie out. Both in 2016 and 2020.

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    [–] 85 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Sanders is one person that I wouldn't question the integrity of. Malicious dopes, would, but I wouldn't.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    And honestly? If he did something unethical let's call him out for it. But it doesn't invalidate everything good he currently fights for. I've made mistakes, neither of us is perfect...

    Editing to add: We can't have inhuman perfection be the standard to meet when they have a literal rapist and felon in the White House!

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  • [–] 40 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Could they take any other photo of him for the article? They are ridiculing him, making him look like an angry old monkey, completely in the line with what this Corpsefucker Jr wanted to achieve. With Musk suing Waltz for a sieg heil callout at the same time, I believe, it's a planned crusade against the last two guys who could have got everyone's respect if not support, and both attacks look nothing like boxing, but more like pissing down from the top of the ladder while having an idiotic laughter and cheering oneself for how it's top comedy. They may not feel threatened by these two old white dudes with a stellar rep, but they want to hammer everything that's left on the table and still moving.

    And, well, the more infuriating thing than what these inbreds do is that they don't target Harris, because since the failed elections she is nowhere to be seen after being a VP and nearly a president, and that just shows how bad of the pick she was if even Bush Jr of all people had a media coverage, and she just didn't.

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    [–] 38 points 2 years ago

    Mission accomplished: answer not given and as a bonus fox news gets a clip "RFK jr DESTROYED corrupt Sanders"

    ...I hate this timeline.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Can't someone just make him follow in his father's footsteps already?

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    [–] 25 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    yet another rich asshole lying to congress with no consequences.

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    [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    rfk. go away. that is all I have to say.

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