cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/24657192

Summary

In a virtual speech at the World Economic Forum, Trump suggested Canada could become a U.S. state to avoid his proposed tariffs on imports.

The remark elicited gasps from the audience.

Trump claimed the U.S. does not need Canadian lumber, energy, or vehicles, vastly overstating the trade deficit between the two nations.

He reiterated his intention to impose tariffs, potentially as high as 25%, on imports from Canada and Mexico starting February 1.

Economists warn such tariffs would raise prices for U.S. consumers.

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[–] 91 points 2 years ago* (17 children)

As a Canadian, fuck you Trump. Canada will never be a US state. Not sorry.

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  • [–] 45 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    If it goes down I'm just gonna scoot up north and fight on your side for Canadian citizenship.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    That's a really good idea! I'm about 5-8 hours from the Canadian boarder but I will not fight for a fascist country. I'll either join the other side or join a resistance here.

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    [–] 78 points 2 years ago (23 children)

    Trump seems to have the goal of destroying the US from all I can tell. Our economy and power are so dependent on our connections to the rest of the world and he is burning them all down. The US dollar gets replaced as the fiat currency we are wholly fucked and this dumb shit is how that happens.

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  • [–] 49 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Somehow, even with conservatives owning all the branches of government, it will be the Dem's fault.

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    If America is forced to accept austerity measures over our massive debt when the dollar is no longer fiat, regular people will be the ones who suffer sadly.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    As long as the US dollar has maintained and will maintain its supremacy, regular people suffer all over the world for the comfort of treatlerites in the imperial core.

    I'd rather the dollar crash so that the world has a chance.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago*

    When Dollar is replaced as the reserve currency, America's imports will shrink and there may be inflation. But it won't result it in defaulting on its domestic currency.

    Any austerity on the US will be self-inflicted (as it is in the UK and Europe). The unwillingness of the US Government to take over the economy from the parasites will make things much worse.

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    [–] 50 points 2 years ago

    Trump is going to speedrun all our vassals allies into joining BRICS, and I’m here for it.

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  • [–] 47 points 2 years ago (15 children)

    Us citizens pay tariff this doesn't hurt Canadians. They should call bluff and say do 30%.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It potentially reduces exports from Canada to the US, hurting our economy. Nobody wins

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Canada imports more from USA than it exports to USA. A trade war that decreases exports would hurt USA more than Canada.

    The largest exports from USA to Canada are cars and trucks. (Finished products) The largest exports from Canada to USA are minerals, fuels and pulp. (Raw material)

    This puts USA at a disadvantage in a tariff game, because it's a lot easier for Canada to replace American cars with Asian or European cars, than it is for USA to replace the variety of ressources that Canada provides

    It's also a lot easier for Canada to find other customers for raw materials than it is to sell American cars on other continents.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Actually tariffs will hurt Canadians deeply. Why? Because it means that Americans will lean towards not buying products made in (or partially made in) Canada. Plus, Canada would certainly reciprocate meaning the price of everything is going to go up in Canada. It's not a good situation and our government needed to be spending the past 10 - 20 years developing stronger trade relations with other countries but instead we amplified our relationship with what is clearly a very unreliable and untrustworthy neighbour.

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    [–] 41 points 2 years ago* (21 children)

    rip you guys are gonna get couped
    imperialism is manifesting itself in the imperial core

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    [–] 33 points 2 years ago

    Dear Trump:

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Why people keep listening to what that being says? Just respond to his actions, anthing else is useless...

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    There is no actual fentanyl or immigration basis for tariffs on Canada. Just submit to less representation than California, and help absorb large US debt with little in return for it.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago

    American anschluss of Canada to expand their lebensraum, because they feel they deserve it.

    Musk does not hide how he feels about it, we wouldn't either.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Canada is avoiding Trump's tariffs by not becoming a state.

    They are not paying the tariffs, american people do. So by joining the US they would start paying all the tariffs that Trump is putting on China's products, European products ....

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    [–] 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Is the US so attractive that countries are lining up to join? 🤔🇺🇸

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago

    Do you think he wanted to do this last time but ousted everyone who told him that's fucking psychotically stupid?

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    What about the provinces within Canada? Are they gonna all merge to become one US megastate?

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

    Canada’s economy is dependent on the US. Trump might actually pull this off.

    Edit: More context since people are downvoting. Consider the following now picture yourself one of the greedy capitalists in Canada, which is a preferred outcome? Losing your wealth or losing Canadian sovereignty?

    Just because I think it is likely doesn’t mean that I think it’s right. This is clearly wrong.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago*

    Canada is also America's largest trading partner.

    America had $357 billion dollars worth of imports from Canada in 2023, if they introduce a 25% tarriff Americans will pay $446 billion instead because it's not like you'll get all that stuff anywhere else for cheaper since America is going to put tariffs on practically every other country they trade with apparently.

    Corporations spend billions on the current infrastructure and trade routes and logistics, they will not uproot everything and go through the pains of firing everyone then moving to America and retraining because of a short term loss. American administrations are fickle, many of them will simply wait out the 4 years hoping it will return to normal then. If it doesn't then maybe they might consider it then but for the next 4 years Americans are going to be paying a shitload more for anything that's not made in America.

    American businesses will also find it a lot more difficult to sell their products out of the country when those countries retaliate with tarriffs against them.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    Canada's oligarchs like the fact that only Israel and US is allowed to compete with them, and elections are cheaper to buy. A single state makes them lose power. Population understands only negatives from US, and also would not vote for Trump.

    Unfortunately for Canadians, they are still programmed to side with US over China and Russia, and that programming makes it a blasphemy to seek independence that would also protect them from the US. As long as Canada's position is to beg to restore its fully subservient colonial status, then the Trump extortion will continue.

    One goal that Musk would have behind this is that it can destroy the big 3 automakers.

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    How about trump can suck my left nut. There, I said it.

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