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Trump says the United States does not need oil, gas, vehicles, or lumber imports from his allies to the north.

Trump made the comments Thursday, in his first speech to world leaders since returning to the White House for his second term.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 week ago (4 children)

"We're going to be demanding respect from other nations," Trump said.Β Β 

Respect needs to be mutual. He sounds like the typical asshole uncle that always acts like they're owed respect be have never showed any in return.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 week ago

Reminds me of this image:

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This how the aholes in my company treated our vendors. Vendors said go suck it, leading to increasing lead times to "yeah I dk when you'll get stuff" for a year. The fact it happened 2x in a few year is mine boggling.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah, did you work for a Volkswagen or General Motors supplier in the late 1990s and early 2000s?

Because I recall that exact situation, and the resulting crash of quality.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Rofl I won't say much but let's say I'm very certain they were rehired somewhere I know and then fired for the same behavior. Lessons here is don't hire anyone from auto industry. They are just bullies.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Most of the world had respect for America before Maga surfaced and it was revealed that it was full of Morons and Nazis. At least more than was suspected before.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Respect is earned, not given.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

I suppose Albertans in oil and gas should call Danielle and tell her to stop the clown tricks and join Team Canada now.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That would require them to have the ability to perceive consequences in the future.

These are the type of people that get a notoriously unstable job making 6 figures on a high school education and immediately lease a brand new $80K truck and start a coke habit because they can currently afford it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah. That's the Alberta legislature, but what about its citizens? They're gonna be out of a job unless Alberta thinks of something else.

I have an idea: do what Peter lougheed promised to do, which won the election for the cons for the first time in decades. Do that. He didn't, and they didn't, so maybe now? Just grab his notes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Maybe we should do what I've been suggesting over and over and over and over and over again when I lived in Alberta and BUILD REFINING CAPACITY.

I just can't with them...I worked with so many O&G folks back in my day. Nobody ever wanted to acknowledge our dependence and vulnerability. Just whistling loudly past graveyard after graveyard.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Make America Great Depression Again

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago

"Felon who has had no need or interest in the price of oil, gas, vehicles or lumber makes statements about the necessity of oil, gas, vehicles, and lumber"

Fixed the headline

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Arguably accurate on the oil front as the US net exports, but the housing crisis is gonna get real bad after the price of lumber triples, ending all construction...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Don't they have to rework their refineries in order to replace Canadian oil? Instead the refineries currently working with Canadian oil are specifically built to process dillbit, due to having been built to use Venezuelan dillbit originally.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That and Canadian oil sells at a discount. Cut off the largest foreign oil supply and replace it with domestic oil that sells at full price, all while every trader knows you are buying up all the excess oil to refill the strategic reserve, and hooo boy are gas prices going to go up.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

True, the refineries would be an issue, but I don't think anyone has thought through what halting all construction is going to do to a housing market with a $24k/year national average to make rent already.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Oh yes I didn't mean to deny the point on housing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Who knew it was all so complicated? /s

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Also pipelines. sure there is enough oil but canada has a pipeline to minnesota so canadan oil is what they use. North dakota oil does go through minnesota but to a different refinery someplace east that can use it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I know that Trump plans to "drill baby drill" but realistically they don't need to replace our oil at all; if they lost our supply entirely it'd just make their gas a bit more expensive. They already have a surplus.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's ok. After they're all deported, we won't have any more migrant laborers to build anything anyway (I'm ~(sadly)~ American).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If the US net exports oil, why does it need ours?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Oil markets are weird, it seems, and something about different refineries for different oil. It does strike me as odd that we import massive quantities of Canadian oil that's prone to explode while also exporting massive quantities, but that's what the official numbers say πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Esp considering they need to rebuild a good chunk of LA. Bad time to make anything more expensive for anyone.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

But we do need the Food that Canada grows and exports to the US. So fuck you trump you idiot. He bankrupted a CASINO!!!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

He's probably right wrt the USA needing our exports, as much as it sucks for us.

Maybe now we'll actually diversify our industries and seek out new buyers.
Probably not though, since PP is gonna be in charge and that man baby only wants to double down on selling oil to the USA, and thats the entire extent of his economic plan. And by that I mean he is gonna throw money at oil companies and hope it magically turns into more sales to the USA.
What's the opposite of diversify?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Consolidation.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean we could just close the borders/ air travel a few days a week as a trial run to see how it goes. A trail separation if you will

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Does that mean we can answer the late night calls from the EU?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Then I guess Canada can just switch lumber production and construction standards over to metric now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Shortly after, tradespeople across Canada burst in flames.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Every country that transitioned had some difficulty l, and it is a good idea for a metric country to use metric in construction ... but it would make for good political ammunition.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (8 children)

A 2x4 stopped being a 2x4 so long ago, and keeps becoming less, we might as well measure them in metric now

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

There's a joke to be made here that the Amish still use actual 2x4's, but it's a bit dated.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Going to be so awesome when dealer lots get overfilled with Chrysler minivans and GM SUVs that nobody wants and can't be exported, meanwhile affordable Chinese EVs that Canadians actually desire are slapped with 100% import tarrifs as protectionism for American and Japanese corporations.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Minivans are the best. I own a DGC built in Ottawa. Reliable AF. Huge cargo capacity. Gets 21MPG on the highway. Basically use it as a truck, but it's way more practical than a truck because the cargo capacity is more and your stuff doesn't get wet when it rains.

Only real downsize is tow capacity.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Trump can go fuck himself!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

That's the thing, Canada is mostly a raw materials exporter and the main importer is US industry.

It'd basically be like when China tried to "Wolf-warrior" Australia and ended up with coal, pork and grain shortages.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

What a moron.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Trump can ban Canadian imports to prove that he's not bluffing

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd love to watch the US handle skyrocketing prices because they got rid of all the immigrants, then they got rid of Canadian lumber and oil, causing those prices to skyrocket as well.

Add to that the costs of the yet again border wall, costs of the immigration ~~death camps~~ vacation parks with all the guards, legal shit and transportation, the tax cuts for the wealthy and the extra taxes for people who already can't make it to the end of the month.

So far, el cheeto is doing GREAT!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Something occurred to me while watching some news yesterday. It won't take ICE raids removing people from farms for the effect to materialize. The fear from raids will cause people to stop showing up for work at the farms before that. That's why I think we'll see the effects on food prices quicker.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Absolutely, the results are already visible, and prices in the US keep rising.

People voted trump to make the inflation go down and he just started a trade war with Canada and Mexico and is about to start one with Europe

Seriously, by the time he's gone, the US will be in shambles. Soft power will have evaporated, any good deals they had world wide will be gone, the US will likely never recover

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Maple. Syrup.

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