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Seen on reddit and other sources:

https://old.reddit.com/r/fresno/comments/1hxqlx7/the_more_i_try_to_save_energy_the_higher_the/

Its already 50c or more per kilowatt hour... https://www.pge.com/assets/pge/docs/account/rate-plans/residential-electric-rate-plan-pricing.pdf

On top of the "The Electric Home Rate Plan includes a $15-per-month Base Services Charge"... because people were starting to get 100% of their power from solar and it was "unfair".

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I thought energy in the U.S. was laughably cheap, but those prices are surprisingly expensive compared to my feel-good-all-hydro-and-wind plan at 0,35€/kWh

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

My UK rates are about £0.26/kWh for the day rate, £0.07/kWh for the night rate which is when things like car charging is done. Excess solar generation makes me £0.15/kWh I send back to the grid although not much of that going on in the winter ;-)

We also pay a daily standing charge for the grid connection.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

That’s California though, where everything is expensive. In the east coast I paid around $0.20 this summer which includes peak hours. Although it has steadily gone up in the last few years. It used to be $0.12-$0.14.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

They are outrageously expensive compared to my hydro Quebec rate of USD $0.05/kWh, or even my previous rate in Ontario of (varying by the the time of day) USD $0.06-0.12/kWh.

96% of Quebec electricity is generated by hydro power, which of course doesn't require any fuel. The other thing, though, is that power generation and transmission is done through a public corporation, not a private one. The profits go into general government revenue.

[–] HobbitFoot 4 points 2 days ago

California has historically high electricity rates.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Gee it seems like they could come up with a simple algorithm to protect low income people who are conserving.

Aaaand why aren’t costs going down as usage goes down?

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